GeForce Ti4800SE and RVS/GR trouble
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GeForce Ti4800SE and RVS/GR trouble
I don't seem to have this problem with any other games....yet. But, when in these two games, I'm getting flickering white lightning bolts and graphical tears. I've got the latest bios and drivers for the card, a fresh reinstall of everything on my HD including DirectX 9.0a. I was having this problem BEFORE I formatted and reinstalled my hard drive, and this problem was one of the reasons I decided to format my drive. I know this probably has something to do wtih VertSync and I have adjusted it to Always be on under my Direct 3D control settings. I have maxed out my refresh rate on this monitor to 75hz. Shrug. I'm at a loss as to what else I could do short of sending the card back?
Video card
Hey Grif,
What settings are you using under the GF4 graphics settings? Are you running FSAA? Ansio? Quality, Performance, or both? If it only does it in GR and RvS, and not other games, then it has to be something besides the card? What GF4 drivers are you running? 43.45 Detonators?
What settings are you using under the GF4 graphics settings? Are you running FSAA? Ansio? Quality, Performance, or both? If it only does it in GR and RvS, and not other games, then it has to be something besides the card? What GF4 drivers are you running? 43.45 Detonators?
"SILENCE, I KILL YOU!!" - Achmed the Dead Terrorist
AKA: Staark or Staark_RLG
Yes, I'm running 43.45 detonator drivers. latest and greatest Not sure what FSSA is? Let's see what my settings are at:
agp 4x
Intellisample settings- quality
antialiasing is off
anistropic filtering is off
refresh is at OPTIMAL, but I've tried it at other settings...60, 72, and its highest setting of 75 hz. I grabbed Karen's monitor and plugged it and I was having the same problem. So I don't think it's the monitor.
Texture Sharpening is off. However, I've tried it with it on as well.
Any ideas, please let me know. The people from Ubi suggest going down to the 41.09 drivers, but that does'nt make sense to me.
agp 4x
Intellisample settings- quality
antialiasing is off
anistropic filtering is off
refresh is at OPTIMAL, but I've tried it at other settings...60, 72, and its highest setting of 75 hz. I grabbed Karen's monitor and plugged it and I was having the same problem. So I don't think it's the monitor.
Texture Sharpening is off. However, I've tried it with it on as well.
Any ideas, please let me know. The people from Ubi suggest going down to the 41.09 drivers, but that does'nt make sense to me.
I'm still looking for your solution, but I found this...
you can go to that page at UBI Answer PageThe version that ships with the MSI video card is not actually a full retail version of Ghost Recon. It is a bundled version and is not on a retail CD. After installing the v1.4 patch for Ghost Recon, you must have the original Ghost Recon CD in the drive to play. Since this is not an original retail GR disk, you will experience this problem.
We have created a fix for this problem. To obtain the fix for the MSI/GR problem, you will need to contact a Technical Support Representative. This can be done by clicking on the 'Ask A Question' tab near the top of this page, or Click here to 'Ask A Question'.
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I don't believe this is even close to true. I don't use any kind of refresh fix or any other external video tool. I know for a fact that I am using 75 Hz in Raven Shield in my XP setup.Smack_CMACG wrote:Are you running Windows XP? In that case you are stuck at 60 Hz in games no matter what you set it at. You need to use a refresh fix.
As for Griffy's trouble with GR and graphics glitches, there are a host of suggestions from the forums. Some say to adjust the z-buffer in GR to 16 bit. Some say to set your desktop resolution and refresh rates to the settings you want in game (1024x768x16bit color). Some say turn on mipmapping in game. Some Switch to driver version 42.xx.
Any way you look at it, it's all a bunch of voodoo chicken sacrificing (or bunnies if you prefer).
The best I can suggest is to try different settings until it works the way you like it. Steel mentioned V-synch, which reminded me of something from the Falcon discussions. What about "texel" alignment? Do you have a setting for that in your video control panel? It's another way to tweak the view - no telling if it will fix the problem.
Silence is golden - Duct Tape is silver
texel align ment will not fix tearing...it helps the renderer align pixels properly in the image... that is something to try in Falcon if you have blurry fonts.
if you have tearing, especially if it is looking to be between objects in the game, try turning vsync off and see what happens.
if all else fails, definitely conduct the voodoo chicken sacrifice and sprinkle the blood on your PC... ;)
oh yes, you probably mean FSAA (not FSSA) which is front side anti aliasing... that helps get rid of or reduce the stairstep effect on angles and curves that are displayed...
you should easily be able to run at 1024x768, FSAA of 4x, and anisotropic filtering of 8x... leave texture sharpening off... you can set your D3D refresh rates in your D3D settings for your card. go to each resolution (even if you do not think you will use it) and set them all to 75...
if you have tearing, especially if it is looking to be between objects in the game, try turning vsync off and see what happens.
if all else fails, definitely conduct the voodoo chicken sacrifice and sprinkle the blood on your PC... ;)
oh yes, you probably mean FSAA (not FSSA) which is front side anti aliasing... that helps get rid of or reduce the stairstep effect on angles and curves that are displayed...
you should easily be able to run at 1024x768, FSAA of 4x, and anisotropic filtering of 8x... leave texture sharpening off... you can set your D3D refresh rates in your D3D settings for your card. go to each resolution (even if you do not think you will use it) and set them all to 75...
Helmut
Don't worry about that ... I was just putting a "for-instance" in there ... I have no idea what the best driver set for the 4800 is. Sorry for any confusion.
Although, you can find any version of the drivers including 42.xx at
download.guru3d.com
Click on the following
"Videocard Drivers" -> "NVIDIA detonator drivers"
Scroll down.
You could choose any version you like.
I am currently using 29.42 on my nvidia machine, although I don't have a recommendation for you to use with your 4800 board.
Although, you can find any version of the drivers including 42.xx at
download.guru3d.com
Click on the following
"Videocard Drivers" -> "NVIDIA detonator drivers"
Scroll down.
You could choose any version you like.
I am currently using 29.42 on my nvidia machine, although I don't have a recommendation for you to use with your 4800 board.
Silence is golden - Duct Tape is silver
Drivers
Grifter, get the drivers from here:
http://download.guru3d.com/detonator/
This is where I get all of my drivers from.
EDIT: Gator beat me to it. But now you know where to look.
http://download.guru3d.com/detonator/
This is where I get all of my drivers from.
EDIT: Gator beat me to it. But now you know where to look.
"SILENCE, I KILL YOU!!" - Achmed the Dead Terrorist
AKA: Staark or Staark_RLG
Hey Grif, get the drivers from.... Oh wait! 
Yes, under the advanced settings on your video card, there is a D3D section and an OpenGL section...
Right click on your desktop, go to properties, go to the settings tab, click on the advanced button, then on GeForce properties (I think - don't have an Nvidia card any more, there used to be a D3D tab, but they changed it.). Someone else can confirm if ou can not find it...
I would use the 43.45 drivers... Nvidia skipped a version actually...they went from 41.xx to 43.xx as far as public releases go.
Yes, under the advanced settings on your video card, there is a D3D section and an OpenGL section...
Right click on your desktop, go to properties, go to the settings tab, click on the advanced button, then on GeForce properties (I think - don't have an Nvidia card any more, there used to be a D3D tab, but they changed it.). Someone else can confirm if ou can not find it...
I would use the 43.45 drivers... Nvidia skipped a version actually...they went from 41.xx to 43.xx as far as public releases go.
Helmut
We actually turned the video clocks speeds down and it stopped the lightning bolts and tears from appearing?! I may lose some performance, but at least I'm not running it with those annoying flickers. The question is if it's just ubi or not. I'm d/l Battlefield 1942 demo by EA to see if I can reproduce the problem with normal settings.
I finally downloaded some demos and tried the card out only to find that I was having the same problem. While the guys from ubi said I might try tweaking my sound card settings in dxdiag, I made up my mind that I had just about had it. I went out to best buy and dropped the cash on a ati 9500 pro. Seems I get nearly the same performance, perhaps not quite as good but altogether I'm satisfied. No glitches, no errors, and I've got complete GUI access to the card settings in my display properites, something Nvidia refused to let me have without tweaks and regedits. Bastards! I've wasted my whole vacation tweaking and farting around with this damned computer and it would finally appear that I have it mostly running near perfect. THe 9500 is a little slow, I get sticky fps in Ravenshield, but I'm thinking that perhaps might be due to the software itself. People on the ubi boards, a lot of people at that, have been complaining of the same problem. Did you happen to notince in your options settings for RVS, the little ATI stamp. Hmmm. I'll tweak the card to get it running just right...finally something works. (SIGH).
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Damn dude
Hey Grif,
Sorry to hear about your problems with that card. I am guessing you got a bad card? Seems very strange that a brand new card would have the problems you had.
I hope you can return the 4800 card or at least sell it for what you paid. I have a friend that might be interested in it if you for some reason can't return it. But if it's a bad card, then maybe that's not such a good idea? Can you test it in another computer and see if it does the same thing? If so, then I'm sure it's a bad card.
The 9500 is a good card, not as fast as the 9700 Pro, but good none the less.
At least you are HAPPY now.
Sorry to hear about your problems with that card. I am guessing you got a bad card? Seems very strange that a brand new card would have the problems you had.
I hope you can return the 4800 card or at least sell it for what you paid. I have a friend that might be interested in it if you for some reason can't return it. But if it's a bad card, then maybe that's not such a good idea? Can you test it in another computer and see if it does the same thing? If so, then I'm sure it's a bad card.
The 9500 is a good card, not as fast as the 9700 Pro, but good none the less.
At least you are HAPPY now.
"SILENCE, I KILL YOU!!" - Achmed the Dead Terrorist
AKA: Staark or Staark_RLG
Yes, finally I'm happy. Got the new ati 9500 pro registered and it looks like things are actually running pretty good on my comp. Some minor problems that I can live with on a whole. I'm returning the card to the accupc.com. It appears I just got a bad card, but who knows right? Well, at this point I just want the damned thing to work! I would'nt sell this card to my worst enemy, but thanks for offering SB.
Smack,
I really don't want to argue about this, but I also don't want people who read this thread to think that all their games run at only 60 Hz under XP.
Fact 1: I have not applied any refresh rate fix or other video tweak to my system.
Fact 2: Falcon 4.0 runs at 75 Hz (as checked in my monitor on-screen-display during gameplay - not just UI).
Fact 3: Ghost Recon runs at 75 Hz (Checked in the same manner as Falcon).
Fact 4: Raven Shield runs at 75 Hz (Checked in the same manner)
I have read the forums that preach this "feature." I just don't believe it because I have not experienced it. I put my faith in the facts as I experience them, not as I read about them. I can't speak to your personal experiences or your personal hardware/software setup. My personal experience has shown me that there is no 60 Hz limit in Win XP - even though it may appear to be present in someone's specific configuration.
-Gator
I really don't want to argue about this, but I also don't want people who read this thread to think that all their games run at only 60 Hz under XP.
Fact 1: I have not applied any refresh rate fix or other video tweak to my system.
Fact 2: Falcon 4.0 runs at 75 Hz (as checked in my monitor on-screen-display during gameplay - not just UI).
Fact 3: Ghost Recon runs at 75 Hz (Checked in the same manner as Falcon).
Fact 4: Raven Shield runs at 75 Hz (Checked in the same manner)
I have read the forums that preach this "feature." I just don't believe it because I have not experienced it. I put my faith in the facts as I experience them, not as I read about them. I can't speak to your personal experiences or your personal hardware/software setup. My personal experience has shown me that there is no 60 Hz limit in Win XP - even though it may appear to be present in someone's specific configuration.
-Gator
Silence is golden - Duct Tape is silver
I also run stuff at higher refresh rates without those special utilities... All of my stuff is at 85 Hz...running XP Pro. Now some stuff WILL run at 60 Hz if I have not set the refresh rate for that resolution AND color depth (this is important!)... This can be done with the standard windows utility, select it for your desktop, then go into advanced portion of your video settings and set the refresh rate under the monitor section. Accept it and from then on any time you run something at that resolution and color depth it will run at the refresh rate you specified - until you install a new video card or divers (sometimes...). Another way is to go into your advanced video settings and set the refresh rate for all resolutions in there... The later video drivers have been adding the capability.
Helmut