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BlackHawk*K · Post by **BlackHawk*K** » 16 Jan 2007, 13:16

I knew all that R/C car racing would come in handy at some point.

you ever use the Dean's connectors? what i used when i was doing the 1/10 scale heavy metal circuit ( like stadium trucks but modified.)

go team associated!

hehe

Buffalo Six · Post by **Buffalo Six** » 16 Jan 2007, 14:21

I raced 10th scale oval and road course (we at the time had a paved, high banked oval, with a road course in the center) and 1/8th scale gas onroad.

Deans...yes i used them, but i perfered the Dens2 plug, bigger contact areas and you didnt have to perform that funky solder bridge between posts. All my battery/speed control and speed control/motor connections were Deans2 plugs. those combined with 100% pure copper bars on the batteries worked well for me. Ahh the memories of charging batteries while in a cooler, special concotions of suntan lotion on the foam tires, top secret blends of stuff on the rubber radial oval tires, and the pain of burning thru $100 in rubber for a 60 min A main 1/8th scale race.....

No wonder I was broke all the time back then...........

Back on topic... =)

EDITED BECAUSE i GOT TIRED OF SIDE SCROLLING TO HELL AND BACK

all that cooper combined with 4 120mm fans and a 200mm fan.....should do what I need it to....I hope

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 30 Jan 2007, 09:17

buff you where asking the diff between OEM vs Retail. New article about Vista specifically, but explains the differences of OEM and Retail very well, figured you would want to see.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070130-8730.html

Now, the article dose state that the OEM is tied to a motherboards. With XP its meant to be tied to a motherboard, but I have never heard issues swaping to a different motherboard. Vista will bitch and complain tho. but again this is something someone else may know more about. So now I need to see if I can get a free Windows Vista through a friend who is still at university. Educational copy is free through the university and still valid after university as long as it snot used for making cash, and last I checked, games don't make me cash lol. but this is the only way I will lay my hands on Vista, and even then I will not install it any time soon if I do get it this way

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 30 Jan 2007, 12:33

Article on reinstalling the OEM version on multiple PCs:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=35 ... pert&pid=4

Another article on the OEM version:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2087792,00.asp

These may help as well.

Hammer · Post by **Hammer** » 30 Jan 2007, 22:06

oem is not tied to a mainboard...

you can buy an oem version of an M$ os with any major component - cpu, mainborrd, or hard drive. this is also the type of install you get when you purchase a machine from a retailer such as dell, hp, etc. the install is actually different - if you have an oem product id you can not use retail or volume license media to install the os and vice versa. none of the three are interchangeable, you have to have the correct media type to match the product id type you are installing. many oems that are direct with M$ (there are only a few of them nowadays - they kicked us to system builder channel due to lack of volume) have to actually make a custom media cd that will install only on that machine type - usually called a recovery cd/dvd. but you can still use your product id with any oem media...

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 31 Jan 2007, 06:52

I think its just vista thats tied to a specific motherboard then. and they have the crap in vista to enforce that. but hey if the install fails on a different motherboard, call in and say, hey my system MB burnt out, and I bought a new one, and they should be good and let it go. Remember with Vista its been HEAVILY controlled by M$. But XP should not be a issue and I know Buff was looking at XP.

Buffalo Six · Post by **Buffalo Six** » 31 Jan 2007, 07:10

Steel, from what I read and have seen other places, what you said is true of XP, but it seems Vista is now tied to the MoBo, if you change it, you have to buy a new copy of vista. Which I forsee big assed lawsuits over.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 31 Jan 2007, 07:14

So who wants to try and con Buff into installing Vista and testing it for us on his new system. tho I think Hell would freeze over as will Tiquela before you do that right buff.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 31 Jan 2007, 07:22

read the article I posted - The author installed it on 3 different mobos in one day and had no trouble. Vista's license/authentication is nearly the same as XP and the hardware change monitoring is actually LESS strong than XP -- according to those articles.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 31 Jan 2007, 08:23

The second artcle says that a motherboard change is considered a NEW pc But dose not state if vista will have issues or not. I can't get into the first article. but form what it seams, M$ will not tolerate a new motherboard in your pc. other hardware changes are considered acceptable. The first link says they had to call in and activate like I said earlier. This may be possible, BUT M$ can refuse to re activate the key for another machine, its there choice. so the OEM is still considered to be tied to a motherboard unless you have a M$ approval to move to another pc. In the end this is still a LIMIt to OEM compared to the Retail version of vista which you apparently can change without issue. So if you don't mind calling in and hopping M$ will be nice when you get a upgraded motherbord. For me I have only upgraded a motherboard one time because the old one died when the power supply blew taking the board and a 1 week old chip. But usually I just buy a new pc every few years, so would just buy the extra copy of vista when I FINELY decide to get Vista. It will happen as some games will only work on vista int he future because of Vistas design.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 31 Jan 2007, 08:59

that is essentially the consensus. Officially, it's tied to the motherboard, but practically, it may work unti MS closes the loophole (at their own peril). From what I've read, they just don't want joe blow buying the oem and then begging MS for tech support. Additionally, they want one license for each piece of hardware (and who can fault them for that). The lack of free tech support is a primary driver for the lower price of the oem version, I would say.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 31 Jan 2007, 09:05

Um I have used M$ tech support, um I would not call a guy in India who says, reboot tech support. and you only get 90 days which is insane for a peace of software that is as complex as this. that is one for the reasons I do recommend Dell for non computer geeks, as they at least get GENERAL support including windows to some degree for min 1 year. and pay a bit more up to 3 years. People I have made systems for end up coming to me and that drives me mas, especially now I am in the Us and they are in Canada. Can you fix my pc is a bit annoying then.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 31 Jan 2007, 11:05

I didn't say MS's tech support was useful - I don't know whether it is or isn't -- never used it myself. All I was saying is that with the OEM version, you don't get free tech sup and that is probably the reason they can charge less for the OEM SW.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 31 Jan 2007, 11:41

I know, I was trying to say its not much of a loss, and worth the loss to get what 100$ or more off the retail price.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 01 Feb 2007, 11:27

buff hope yu an't ordered yet. 65 nm amd chips NOW avable on newegg.com.. 4000+ and 4400+ i think in the x2 series, Trust me power and heat reduction worth it.

Buffalo Six · Post by **Buffalo Six** » 01 Feb 2007, 11:55

I saw that but I'll wait 6 months for them to get planted in the market, then make the swap, for now I'll stick with the one I picked out already. And based on price, I'll wait based on power to price ratio or something

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