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Hammer · Post by **Hammer** » 16 Jan 2009, 20:23

DA - usb2 has more bandwidth than firewire, and is much more ubiquitous (sp?). firewire is becoming less and less common. firewire 800 may keep it around for a while though. there already are external sas/sata connections. some desktop mainboards already have them - they are called eSATA ports. otherwise sata/sas expansion cards have external ports. pci-e 1 and 2 have far more bandwidth than the video cards can put out. and it is not like Intel is going to sit on their hands and not move to a newer bus architecture if it is necessary (yes, Intel created pci-e).

Falker · Post by **Falker** » 16 Jan 2009, 23:04

Wow ! , Steel woke up a bit , but heâ€™s still nothing like Ivan the Terrible. You and Slam made a good team seeing how you were both military. Iâ€™m still proud of you guysâ€¦ ( okay where did that come from? ) Aye PCI slot on the desk top case and not PC slot. There is some interesting talk on the net about Ethernet vs. SATA. Now you guys got me curious and snooping around.

daofcmacg · Post by **daofcmacg** » 17 Jan 2009, 08:25

I won't argue with you Steel but the USB vs. firewire is not totally true. I did not know SATA was external but I am not surprised. Yeah good ole intel and that lovely bus, it goes round and round just like IBM and MicroChannel (who created that MMX technology big ass bust). Yes PCI-e will be around but I think with the demand of faster, stronger tougher smarter they will develop it to the point that you won't beable to tell it from its origins, years down the road of course and it just might be a pipedream of mine. I don't like intel but its nearest competitor AMD well they are holding on by a thread.

DA

Hammer · Post by **Hammer** » 17 Jan 2009, 22:16

guys i live, eat and breathe this stuff on a daily basis and have for many, many years. i am responsible for developing massive high perfomrance compute systems in my daily business life, i see trends and technology that will hit the general market months before it does. we work closely with Intel and AMD developers, as well as the rest of those involved in the industy.
-Microchannel has nothing to do with MMX. Microchannel was an IBM bus architecture that was around for a while. MMX is a cpu technology embedded in the processor for multimedia processing, and came into being years after Microchannel was gone
-there are no video cards currently or on the drawing board that can saturate a pci-e bus (x16, as that is what video cards use)
-everything computer related is going to be faster than it is today in 2 years. everyone that has been around computing for any lenght of time knows of moore's law
-unless you are on a Mac you are likely using USB over firewire - 9 out of 10 times.
-AMD is struggling right now as a company and within their cpu technology. they have had some 'issues', and Intel walked all over them in the peformance market over the last year and will continue to do so for the forseeable future.

daofcmacg · Post by **daofcmacg** » 18 Jan 2009, 06:55

I was only using Microchannel and MMX as an analogy to technology that has come and gone with the wind. I was being an ass about the PCI-e thing, I really don't know anything about that and don't care to know (if I have any questions I will ask on the boards).

USB vs. Firewire, I've never benched tested the two but I have seen in casual usage and read whitepapers and serveral blogs and bulletin boards. What I have observed is that Firewire kicks USB butt, now I could be wrong but again I've seen data transfer rates somewhat faster from Firewire than USB 2.0. Again I could be wrong.

AMD has one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel (but of course Intel would never let them die I think we call it a monopoly). from the restructuring to AMD package deals in electronic stores (GOD I HATE THAT TERM) that would make Enzo Ferrari cry.

Why are you getting defensive anyway, and I can tell that IT is your passion, God I miss my passion for this shit, but I don't want it back.

DA

Hammer · Post by **Hammer** » 18 Jan 2009, 09:57

i am not being defensive. there are a lot of things that get posted that folks that do not know just believe out of hand. i will correct those things when i see them.

daofcmacg · Post by **daofcmacg** » 18 Jan 2009, 17:53

And I love you for it Steel! I more than value your opinion when it comes to computers dawg! But I believe in FireWire and not USB. So there I said it, that thing about external SATA is a God send and I will hunt it down and acquire it.

Da

Hammer · Post by **Hammer** » 19 Jan 2009, 13:09

but you presented your opinion as fact. firewire is 400Mbs and USB 2.0 is 460 (or 480) Mbs.

your mainboard either has an eSATA connection or it does not. i do not think there are many, if any, cards out there with eSATA connectors. and you still need to power the drive - so it is meant to connect to some type of enclosure.

daofcmacg · Post by **daofcmacg** » 19 Jan 2009, 13:56

Steel don't forget about 800Mbs but even that is a major hassle when you have a 1TB external that you want to move large files to so eSATA is the way to go!

Just for the fun of it here is an article about an enclosure that is eSATA capable Click here

Thanx Steel for opening my eyes.

DA

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