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My wife is using a wireless card in the back of her pc to connect to our router (model listed above). The thing is that she does not really need to be hooked up via wireless card, she is literally two feet from the router and I have plenty of cat five. But when I tried to plug n' play, the router did not recognize her cat five connect; rather, it kept looking for the smart card. Does anyone know how to switch this over to hard line?

I use the WinXP wizard for a LAN connection. It works fine for me. All you need is your cable and a spare floppy disk.

Thanks Kodiak, however, I'm paying for a second ip address. Sorry for being unclear, but I guess what I'm asking is how Karen can connect through the router directly to the cable modem? is that possible? I guess I'm looking for the alternative to lan or wireless or is that my only options
lan or wireless?

If it wont connect then use the window wizard AND MAKE SURE , all the information is right. Keep running the wizard program a few times until you have run out of options.

If that doesn’t work , find out the IP address to the man computer that the router is plugged into.

To do this ,…


((Step One)) double left click on the Network Connections Icon on your desk top. If the Network Connections Icon is not on your desk top than go to your control panel to find it.

((Step Two)) Once your there , double left click on the Network Connection Icon . Now that’ll bring your Wireless Network connection Icon.

((Step Three)) Double left click the Wireless Connections Icon and then you’ll see the Support button.

((Step Four)) Left click on the Support Button and than you’ll see your IP address for that that computer. Write down the IP address.



Whew …


Next ,


((Step Five)) Go to Step Two


(( Step Six)) Right click on the Wireless Network Connection Icon and scroll down to properties and left click there.


((Step Seven)) You’ll see three buttons there , General , Wireless and Advanced. Go to the General Button and scroll down until you see Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)


((Step Eight )) Double click on that or just click on the properties button in the right hand corner.


((Step Nine)) Click the circle labeled ( use the following IP address )


((Step Ten)) Type in the address from Step Four and hit OK



I think that’s it. Did I mess up Steel ? Steel would be the guy that can make any correction in this matter. I’m sure I got it close tho.

Hey thanks Falkerr. but are those directions to set up a LAN or just have her directly connect to the modem on her own? see my previous post after Kodiaks? Just making sure before I go through all that.

Your wireless computer will connect directly to the router and get on line , after you've set up your main computers IP address on it. ((or ran the wizard properly )) That way you can log on , go wireless and get on the internet with your wireless computer anytime you want even if your main computer is turned off.


Seriously though , it usually just takes the wizard program to make all the necessary adjustments. I put the other info in there just incase your running a firewall.


But yeah , the information above is for wireless and not Lan

it sound to me like rather then a router you need a network hub.

like a little 4 port or something, i used to do this myself. before my wife went wireless. what a hub does instead of a router is this. a hub allows her adapter direct connection to the cable modem and then uses the second IP address you bought for her connection, a router rather sets 1 IP adress that works for the cable, and then changes for the computers. it depending on the computers thats connected to the router. so in other words if you are hooked up to a hub, you have as many unique IP adresses as computers. if your on a router, you have 1 IP adress, but your computers have different ones that share the routers IP addy. ( i THINK)

keep in mind i am NOT a network techie or anything just a poor slob that did this once or twice before and i am working completely off of hearsay of others who ive talked to over the years. but i think the info is correct. if not, please let me know so i can learn along with the rest of ya

Okay, thanks guys.

Just one question on all that guys. If the same telephone line is being used by two PCs/two modems/two IPs (say it however), would that not constitute a limitation of the potential d/l & u/l speeds for both as they are sharing the same phone line physically?

i think he was refering to a cable modem? thats the only way a hub idea would work. if its a phone line then windows ICS or a router would do it. (unless its DSL and i have never used that service yet )

but yea, no matter what the connection. depending on whats being done, it would share the same bandwidth. Useualy a broadband connection is fast enough you wouldnt noticed the difference, unless of course both people are heavy downloaders or something. or maybe some games that requre a huge amount of bandwidth.

your router can handle only one IP for your cable service.

if you want to use a second ip it will have to be via a switch or hub between your cable modem and router. then the router plugs into the hub, the other pc plugs in the hub, and the cable modem plugs into the hub. you will not be able to use wireless for this unless you have a wireless access point that can act as the switch/hub as well.

note that the other. second pc will be unprotected by your router and will need a software firewall, unless you purchase a second router. it could be wireless as mentioned above...but this will complicate things unless you have another hub to use.

i have the stuff you need though... PM me.

Again, thanks for your help guys. All in all though, I think I will just leave things as they are. Everything is working fine. I appreciate the input though, again I learned a few things I did'nt know.

Steel, just to clearify.

all the info i stated was self taught by trial and error and just some second guessing. was there anything incorect? i know your the knowlagable one in this field. i would rather not pass on incorrect info if i can keep from it.

K, some misconceptions brought up in this thread:

you can use ICS with any internet connection...

he is not using phone lines. unless one is on dialup, no one is using phone lines... DSL does use the same wires a a phone line, but it is not a phone line.

BH, you are pretty much on with your idea... cable modem to hub, one pc plugged into hub and one router plugged into hub. then last pc plugged into router. a better way would be to add another router between the hub and pc, so that both are set up that way - unless you trust software firwalls enough and will give up that performance on your machine. for a game machine i would say no...

so the scenario would be:

cable modem
|
|
hub/switch
/\
/ \
/ \
router router
| |
PC PC

make sense? each router would be set up for the respective IP from the ISP...

but lacking a second router, the PC would be moved up one connection and a software firewall used instead:

cable modem
|
|
hub/switch
/\
/ \
/ \
router PC (w/ firewall)
|
PC

the alternative with ICS would be:

cable modem
|
router
|
PC (w/ICS)--------PC

in this case there is no need for a second IP from the ISP, and any time the second PC needs to have internet access the first PC seends to be up and running. The first PC also needs two NIC's (network interfaces). Could be done via serial or parallel cables, but Ugh! - talk about dinosaurian...

to use both the wired and wireless capabilites of the router:

cable modem
|
router
/\
/ \
/ \
PC PC (wireless)

in this case there is no need for a second IP from the ISP, the only thing that needs to be running all the time would be the router and cable modem. this is how I would suggest setting it up, unless there is a definite need for two IP's. a second IP does not get you any additional bandwidth, nor any real advatages unless one needs to have a server of some type (game server?). you can also add as many wire connected PC's as needed to this setup by adding a hub/switch behind the router and connecting the PC's to it, but there is a limit to what one would want to do due to bandwidth constraints.

Did you mean for it to look like this?

thx Gator...

anytime ...