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Tach and his guitars inspired me to see if i could fins some of my old cars....2 of the pics are the aftermath of a wreck...oops

here we go..........

My 1st car I bought with my hard earned cash, a '68 Firebird 350 cid with (at the time of the wreck, Dual quads in a offest side draft manifold.....problem was I didnt have them tuned right and well they were running fat and ignighted the fuel in the carb, thus melting the air cleaner supports and all that melted and fell into the carb.....which then stuck wide open on both carbs and well off I went down the street at W.O.T. and lost it going around a curve, slid thru a yard, took out 2 very young trees (about 2 inches in dia.) and into this creek)



And some joker added this sign....guess what pic ended up in my Sr. year book?



This next one is the car I drove at K-state. I went home with my roomate to his rinky dink town way out in western kansas (go to Goodland and hang a left....B.F.E. man) and saw this car's nose under a tarp in a barn, I asked the barn owner if he wanted to sell it....he said sure but it hasnt run in years, and I offered $700, and ended up getting it for $900. Trailered it back to School, put new rubber on it, new hoses, and got it home. That summer on break I cleaned up the body, replaced most of the chrome trim (expensive in '87 for a 442 Olds) and painted it. We took the weak 350 out and dropped in a 455 cid monster, this thing got negitive mileage, but I didnt loose too many street duels. It looks pretty plain jane and I really worked to make it idle quite, but god did it run and it would haze'em in all 4 gears....




Next is my 67 RS Camero, with a factory front bench and factory rear folding seats, the body was rotten to the core but mechanically it was stout. Here are 2 pics of us pulling out the front end and getting ready to install new disk breaks to the front. The red car in the back is my friends 68 Z28 w/ a 302....its really nicely restored, and the primered one in the back is my old 68 SS bracket car....it tried to kill me shortly after this was taken so I sold it....slapping the wall at the big end at over 100 mph was enough for me to hang up my drag raceing helmet.




And finally, the motor we put in the green RS....455 hp, 350 cid beast.....look at al lthat chrome!




I'll see if I can find more......but yes I'm a gear head

Sweet rides. and I must admit the no parking sign is rather good.

so I have to ask what are you driving now ???

O and what car was the one the cop gave u a racing ticket on even tho you where broken down on the side of the road when he found you.

02 Nissan Xterra

and that "incident" happened in the Green Firebird

Nice pics Buff!

I have always thought about building and restoring a muscle car. I have always had an interest in a 1960's mustang or even a Camero. Some day it will happen.

have lots of money handy

although now you can buy a factory new complete body shell for 67-8-9 camaros and I think mudstains also.....

If I could get my hands on one, a 1971 mustang bast back. Love the look.

Besides that, I would more then likely make a rally car as I am not as much into line racing but lots of turns. Still cash but at least then I don't have to spend as much in gas

tho to be different I would turn some odd ball car into a rally car. Imagion a K Car in a rally

nice buff, i cant believe you ditched the pontiac! my first hot rod was a 1971 pontiac lemans sport. 350 ci. cost me 400 bucks.. did alot of work on that bugger till the crank went out on it. while at a friends shop he mentioned he had a 400 out in the field so we got that and it needed a crank too. so i just rebuilt the 400 instead and put it in there. damn the torque was massive. not much on the RPM range though. i did the body work, and painted the body a nice walnut brown. and instead of re-covering the vinal top, we stripped it and just painted it tan. got some sloted dish mags for it and walla all done. ( but i dont have any pics WAAA! ) i traded this car in for a 78 GMC jimmy to tow my travel trailer. a month later i got a call from the guy i sold the car to, he asked me if the car was recked. i told him no. why? he said he ran the numbers on the engine and it came out of a 1970 GTO judge (high compresion 400) and since the lemans sport is so close to a GTO he thought maybe i put a lemans front clip on it. lol.

i have other stories too lol. let me put it this way, im 36 and have owned over 40 different cars lol. i will find my pic of my baby i got rid of and post it here

My dream car is a '59 deuce and a quarter.

DA

im sure i posted this on here before. this was my 67 chev lowrider pickemup. 400 hrs 327, built T350 trans with a 411 rear end. the damn thing was faster then hell. its a good thing it had a small rear window, becuse ive had passengers hit their head on the back a few times hehe. i bought it for 1800.00 basikly already built. spent 200 on the ( at the time ) new tech 3 GM paint. ( base coat with clear coat type thing) the engine was done up in blue moroso and chrome, inc the block hugger headers. i realy miss this truck and have been keeping an eye out for another 67. 67 was a unique year. it was the first year of this body style, but had a sloped back hood. ( they only came in 67 and 68) they had the small rear window and no side marker lights ( unlike the 68 and the years after that. ) the 67 also sported the trailing arm rear suspension. similar to the 65 half tons. this caused the rear end to rise when under heavy acceleration. was an awsome truck.

Man I loved that seen with the 67 Camaro pulling out of the garage in the movie Better off Dead. It’s classic. Is this for real!? You really had a 67 Camaro? From the pics , it looks like it. Dude , did you ever fire it up like this?

http://www.betteroffdeadcamaro.com/inde ... tml~fright


Oh btw, Lots of hot talk about the Chevy 350 ever since I’ve known. Good all around engine. Add a 4-bolt main and it's good for racing. My old boss said he put one in his 71 Toyota Land Cruiser. Slips right in. Of course you’ll need to change the gear ratio in the rear end to prevent it from blowing out. Too much torque.

Guy i used to know put a 455 pontiac engine in his chev 4x4 kept twisting his drive lines hehe.
that truck ( the pic above) was the main nice one i had. ive had many other cars but Buff has all mine beat on looks alone i just cant believe he parked his pontiac there. what as shame hehe.

a little known fact about 69 camaro RS SS. some of those sported a 302 yes, a 302. during the racing days all the cars had to have a 5.0 liter engine. about the only reason i know this is becuse i happened to have one of them.. it was in a 71 blazer. the guy put the engine in it becuse he was going to put a 396 in the camaro. he didnt know what he had, neither did i. i didnt find out till my buddy i sold it to called me up to rub it in LOL. oh well thats life sometimes ( the moral to this story, is it never hurts to check your engines when you get a car! especialy if something is odd about it.)

Admittedly , I’m a little disturbed that I did not get a post reply. If he has , or has had this 67 Camero , than he should have said something awhile back when I posted my “ last link “ well over a month ago in the forum. If it were me I would have jumped at the chance to discuss it , having owed one. So in conclusion. , It’s either me that he wont reply to , or he really didn’t own one , or he just hasn’t had the time to talk about it which makes no sense.

hehe motorhead dosnt always mean motormouth ( fingers in this case.) i wished i had a camero, i would talk with you all about it till ppl tell me to shut up. ( that dosnt take long now days ) to be honest though, i think i would take a pontiac over a chevy though, least in the oldies and maybe with the exception of a chevy II. ( i know its a box. but for some reason i like it ) pontiac always seemed to have more lines then chevy. when i first got my 71 lemans sport. i thought the thing was the ugliest car ever. but as i worked on it, it kinda grew on me and ive been a pontiac junkie ever since. maybe its a mind altering mold or something in the car? lol

sorry Falker.....I missed it.....was workign on IL2 mission packs.

I bought that 67 from the 2nd owner...it was a really a clunker and the body was rotten to the core it had the original 210 HP 327 small block in it....it was weak and not worth rebuilding as it was abused and it was a 2 bolt main, small crank etc.....not much use, just the base model v8 for 67. To do a real restoration would have been about 10K in body work, because I'm a mechanical guy....I dont know crap about body work. This car was a school car, the owner gave it to his girls when the were in HS and college, it had bout 5 layers of "Earl Shiebe" paint on it. basically from behind the doors.....it needed all new sheetmetal, and a ton of labor, and after droping 5k in the motor/trans/rearend etc....I didnt have it left to do it. I drove it for 3 years, until one night as it was parked in my driveway......it got hit but a drunk driver and caved the driver door in. Took 4 months to find a non-rusted, stright door shell/frame that i could work with for under 1K.

That motor is a GM Factory 455 hp 350 cid small block create motor from GM Performance Parts with Alum heads and a nodular iron cran and a full roller cam, a Elderbrock 4 barrel carb (based off a carter design) hooked up to a Muncie 4 speed. The rear end started out as a single spring leaf setup (stock in 67) but with the new drive train....it was a wheel hopping bitch......so that got replaced with a nice lakewood multi leaf system with a 12 bolt posi, 4:12 and some Criager SS wheels (sorry still my fav mussel car wheel). Interior was a god awful gold, but the panels were in good condition, so I left it gold. heh I hung custom 3 inch pipes under it, people in my office could hear it a block away, as the cam was a little stout (and a roller) and before we put the motor in we swaped out the timing chain and added a gear drive. it had a mean sound.....mean. It was my daily driver for 3 years, in kansas.....no A/C in the summer, and you dont even want to know how fun that was on the ice....but I loved it.

After the door got screwed up, I parked it in the driveway, bought a 93 camero rs (6 banger) and it sat until someone offered me a wad of cash for it and when I sold it 3 years ago I really needed the money, dealign with family issues.

So it's not that I ignored ya Falker, its that it was kinda painful to even talk about that car. Pretty much the same thing with all my "hot rods"...poured a lot of time, blood, and cash into them and didnt get much back in return....story of my life.

Pretty much the same thing with all my "hot rods"...poured a lot of time, blood, and cash into them

i kinda know that feeling too buff. i put alot of work into my cars and what cash i had, and that wasnt much more often then not. but tons of work. any car you work on weeks strait every free moment has to mean something in the end. then the worst part of the whole thing is, you seel them, or trade them or something. and you see them later, all trashed or they did something just down right stupid. its heartbreaking sometimes.

BTW Falker....do you know what the only difference between a 67 and a 68?....its something not many notice.

And like I said mine had the factory front bench and the factory rear fold down.....If i can fidn the box, i think I still have a scratch impression of the codes plate.....not even sure where it is.

and i went to that link.....nice page, but mine sounded much....much meaner.....have you ever hear a gear drive?.....wicked and those 3 inch pipes (with a cat back) just added to the sound =)

Blackhawk.....if I get time I'll scan a few show picks of that red car you see in the garage.....its a 68 RS and it has a 302 in it.....my pal Rob did a complete restor of it....nice car

Buffalo Six wrote:BTW Falker....do you know what the only difference between a 67 and a 68?....its something not many notice.

I would haft to say it’s the front grill?

Never heard a gear drive. I believe it tho ;)


That’s awfully weird because I was thinking the same thing. It must be hard to talk about if it’s not there anymore. Damn. That car…. Would have been a real keeper. Sweet. Sorry you had to let it go bro. It’s hard for me to let something go after I’ve spent along time fixing it up. I’ve done that before with a few vehicles or motor cycles. You put lots of time and $ into them and gain a real respect towards it , and next thing you know the IRS wants some pay back or something else comes up , and the only cash you have is in your investments. I’m sure BH has been there as well. Well yeah. : ) Though I’ve known a few good friends that has either had an old Camaro or wanted to.

I think my old friend still has a 68 Camaro sitting in his back yard. He was so damn f-ing happy driving it back in the days. I mean he was yelling about it while we were driving down the road as he was tromping the gas peddle. Happy he had his dream machine. (It had some good pick up) It sounded tough too. Though it had lots of bondo and primer all around it with the tranny leaking all over the engine and exhaust hehe. But it was still a cool ride. He only paid $500 for it so there was no Ram air or anything special about it , except , it was a Camaro with a V-8 engine that was good to go at the time. I’m pretty sure it’s still in his mom’s back yard up in the desert. They have plenty of acreage up there to store cars , trailers , left over junk , and don’t forget about the Dogs.

Lol , BH has a hard on for that Pontiac. It was nice too. Maybe Bufflo66 was hot dogging it too much that day coming up on dead mans curve at 70mph and slammed on the brakes , lost control after a 360 and flew down the embankment almost flipping it , and landed way down in a ditch. That would have been a better story heh. ;) Im joking , but you know I’ve almost done that with my CJ-7 a few times. There nothing like climbing mountain with a 4x4. You’d just haft to do it before you get it.


K- I gtg, my g.f. wants me to go down the street and gets this free refrigerator that someone put out on the curb , before it’s gone. Oh boy..

4x4s are something else we know about around here in OREGON. there is one thing you get in the willamete valley during the winter time and that is MUD!! and lots of it, and usualy mixed with some slickery snotty clay.

around this area, there are 2 things you look for when shopping for a truck you intend to 4WD in the boonies.
1) good solid engine. possibly built if your going mud puddle skipping or some heavy hill climbing. usualy a high RPM build. something to fling the mud from the tread.
2) well built suspension. something put togather right and solid.

ok maybe 3 things you need to make sure your body wont fall off the frame hehe.
paint and interior are optional of course. but nice paint not recomended ;)

even though ive always been a General Motors man. the best 4x4 i had was a 76 dodge PU with a 318 v8, 4 spd manual and 35 monster mudders stuff under it. with a dodge all you needed was a 4 inch lift to get em to work. that thing climbed like a home sick angel.

good days back then

Falker.....the grills are the same of the RS in 67-68.....the body shell us the same, the subframe, the front sheetmetal is the same.......just one thing is different between the 67 and the 68 (other than a few powertrain choices)

It's the wing window.....67 has them......68's dont, and the 68 has a chrome topper strip along the top of the door at the window seals. Thats it....everything else is interchangeable between the 2.

Now here is the story on the 68 Firebird in the creek. About 3 weeks before that crash, I went to a swap meet up in KC and picked up a nice dual cross-ram manifold for a pontiac smallblock, and 2 Holley 750 carbs. After rebuilding the carbs and getting the manifold installed my friend and I attempted to tune the carbs......hey we had a book! So here I am, after school dropping a friend off, and the car is really sputtering coming off the idel, I mean it about quits, chugs and then finally goes......so I stop, make a left turn on James street, and the car chugs. I pump the gas peddle as it makes the turn......and all of a sudden, wham....WOT (wide open throttle) on 2 four barrel carbs......yikes.

See, the carbs were running fat, really fat at idel. And when it chugged, it was actually backfiring thru the carbs, ignighting a way too rich mixture in the bowls. I had put these neat looking Elderbrock Pro-Flo® 1000 Series Reusable Air Cleaners (see this link scroll to bottom) http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/aircleaners.html

Anyway, back then the brace that held the foam filter element in place was made of plastic....fire + plastic = oh shit! All that plastic melted, fell into the butterflies on the carbs.....and locked them wide open.....then the engine cleared itself, and took off like I had my foot pushed thru the floor, in a residential neighborhood. The gas peddle was locked flat to the floor, I think I tried to just turn off the ignition.....but somehow the keys ended up in the back seat (you could just pull the key out even if the key was i nthe on position....it was very worn out)......so....there I am barreling along doign way over the speed limit. I came to a lazy, slight S-bend in the road...and lost it, slid thru this guys lawn, took out 2 very young trees, and went backwards into the creek bed. When I stopped moving, the car was still at WOT throwing mud and water all over and on the cassette deck....Iron Maden's 666 the number of the beast was blaring. The engine finally quit, and there I was in the creek. After that, I never tried to tune a carb again....I left it to peeps who knew what they were doing. The local court convicted me of reckless driving, speeding, and a few other things, even after I proved in court a mechanical malfuntion (I took the entire top end of the engine into court with me)....but a several inch thick prior file....didnt help the cause.

Damn ,.. that’s a good story. I had tears in my eyes. =P What a trip. We used to play Iron Maiden “ The Number Of The Beast “, back in the days. As well as Krokus , RaTT , Dio , Judas Priest's. , Scorps , pretty much all of it. I was listing to ACDC when I rolled in a 91 Toyota 4x4 a few times. Thank god we didn’t go over the cliff. I just got my seat belt on right before it went down. My friend was driving like a nut up on the mountain pass , trying to get to the creek before the guys behind us did. . That’s another story tho. : )


Hay BH ! , Those guys in WA. are always bragging about going mud bogging in Idaho. Never been but sounds cool. They have big-BIG 4x4’s trying to get through a deep trench of mud with 400 people surrounding it. Then let the mud bogging begin! Also a guy at my work said they have sand dunes in Oregon. I think it's about half way up near the coast. Woo, I’d like to check that out. I had a paddle tire on my YZ 250 and tore it up down in Glamis southern California. That’s just a big party place of sand dunes down there where you can ride your bike In a lazy daze of endless dunes or in competition , going up large hills at night is the best. Lots of encores for the winner when he gets to top first. Everyone is just laid back and partying down there hehe. My friends had 350 Banshee’s running on airplane fuel. =0 Man I like the smell of that. It’s better then napalm in the morning.

Oh yeah , we got that refrigerator back. My brother had to get out of bed and help us with his 98 1500 Dodge Truck because my Blazer wouldn’t start. Hmmm , It’s a nice 20 " Admiral. We live in an upscale neighborhood so we get some good kick downs now an then. Everyone was using my old 15 inch garage refrigerator so I figured I’d better get this one while it’s hot. After I changed the fuel pump in my Balzer today , I had to cut my garage shelf to make it fit in andt hen clean the crap of both refrigerators. Long day.. Hopefully someone will pick up the old one this weekend.

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yep, i left it out on the corner and someone took it over night. cool beans.