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This is why I know Microsoft is lying throught here teath

Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 07:57
by VEGETA
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39095

This is about how someone has already made a wrapper for DirectX 10 which allows it to run on XP and other systems. Not tested fully but its there. Wait Microsoft said they can't put DirectX 10 on XP a while back, archeture is to different. Well again tey are lying, as if someone can make a wrapper in a relativity short time, it relay is not that hard. Now when we say wrapper, its a program that DirectX 10 will go through to communicate with windows XP, so say some commands don't exist in XP then the wrapper would intemperate what DirectX 10 wants to do and implement the equivlent or close to in windows XP. now wait gaming wise you will have another app running chewing up resourcess right, well um considering in all tests I can ever find Vista is shown to be a complete resource hog, I am betting this wrapper and X would still outperform vista for speed. now do note some graphical thigns may nt look as good in XP with wrapper then with Vista and directX 10, but I relay ding think the difference is something you would notice much at all if the wrapper was written well.

but in all, this just shows Microsoft is trying to force us to upgrade now to make case when they could make a wrapper and hey us Xp users don't have to upgrade now. Hell even Dell is bringing XP back on soem of there lines as there is a large user demand lol. And yes I know we will go Vista one day, but hey its liek firxt year of a new model car, you don' get it, let some other poor sap problem solve it and get it when issues found and solved.

Re: This is why I know Microsoft is lying throught here tea

Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 13:59
by Tach Deneva
VEGETA wrote:I relay ding think the difference is something you would notice much at all if the wrapper was written well.
PDT_Armataz_01_11

From the context I suspect 'ding' is serving as a substitute for the word "don't", but since this is Veg I can't be entirely sure.

TD

Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 09:29
by Falker
ima going to say it’s an M$ ding


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Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 10:19
by VEGETA
Sad part for M$ is I keep seeing repors that Vista an't doing so hot. hell just the fact Dell said we are putting XP back based on customer demand tells you a lot of people don't want vista yet.

When XP came out we heard the same crap, but then XP was a lot more stable then 98 and had better gaming interface then win 2000 (which still could play games fine) there where reasons to move to it. Vista, in all honesty the reasons here are not good enough for the average person to upgrade, and really its business and the average Joe who drives M$ sales. and Joes don't want it yet and Buisness will not move tell they test the crap out of it.

Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 13:58
by Tach Deneva
I still remember MS using the Stones' 'Start Me Up' in their ad campaign for Win95. Has there even been an ad campaign for Vista?

Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 14:38
by VEGETA
seen a few adds on tv, and lots on the net. There aperentlay a massive add campane but I am most liklelay ignoring it lol. But a huge amount of stores have massive signs liek Vista sold here and crap like that

Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 05:15
by Silk
Let's see, I've seen one with the guy portraying a pc and a guy portraying an apple with a security guy for the pc. Oh wait, that wasn't for vistas it was just bashin it. Nope, not seen anything for Vista itself that I'm aware of.

Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 12:55
by Buffalo Six
I like this explanation of M$ Vista DRM mechanics

In order for content to be displayed to users, it has to be copied numerous times. For example if you're reading this document on the web then it's been copied from the web server's disk drive to server memory, copied to the server's network buffers, copied across the Internet, copied to your PC's network buffers, copied into main memory, copied to your browser's disk cache, copied to the browser's rendering engine, copied to the render/screen cache, and finally copied to your screen. If you've printed it out to read, several further rounds of copying have occurred. Windows Vista's content protection (and DRM in general) assume that all of this copying can occur without any copying actually occurring, since the whole intent of DRM is to prevent copying. If you're not versed in DRM doublethink this concept gets quite tricky to explain, but in terms of quantum mechanics the content enters a superposition of simultaneously copied and uncopied states until a user collapses its wave function by observing the content (in physics this is called quantum indeterminacy or the observer's paradox). Depending on whether you follow the Copenhagen or many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, things then either get weird or very weird. So in order for Windows Vista's content protection to work, it has to be able to violate the laws of physics and create numerous copies that are simultaneously not copies.

read the whole thing.....rather entertaining
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/p ... troduction

Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 13:41
by VEGETA
I am jsut leaving work now but just reading that snipet, lol thats great and funney and gives you insight into there thinking.

Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 14:05
by Buffalo Six
well if you like that...you will love this..........

Vista's content protection mechanism only allows protected content to be sent over interfaces that also have content-protection facilities built in. Currently the most common high-end audio output interface is S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface Format). Most newer audio cards, for example, feature TOSlink digital optical output for high-quality sound reproduction, and even the latest crop of motherboards with integrated audio provide at least coax (and often optical) digital output. Since S/PDIF doesn't provide any content protection, Vista requires that it be disabled when playing protected content [Note E]. In other words if you've sunk a pile of money into a high-end audio setup fed from an S/PDIF digital output, you won't be able to use it with protected content. Instead of hearing premium high-definition audio, you get treated to premium high-definition silence.

Say you've just bought Pink Floyd's “The Dark Side of the Moonâ€

Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 23:37
by Falker
Vista Ad: ( happy people dancing around )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTlg5Kkqu4M


Vista Installation: ( not a happy camper)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOG ... ed&search=


Faker with Free Vista:
( whew -- =p =p =p =p =p =p =p =p )


Vista Geek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ





I’m so close to buying an X-Box 360 or P.S.3. , but my computer still provides the most all-around fun. Plus ima going to be a bigger Geek then Veg when he starts asking me how to get Vista to work right . . ( SSDD) :P

Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 23:45
by Softball
The Vista install video clip is HILARIOUS!!! LMAO!!

Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 23:53
by Falker
Yeah, I was cracking up when he threw the box down. lol :P