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I've Uninstalled Armed Assault

Posted: 27 Apr 2007, 17:57
by Hudson
I've uninstalled Armed Assault. I cannot understand how I am dropping down to 4 FPS when I am playing this game with all my NVIDIA settings tweaked for performance AND am running at 640x480x32, with all settings down to Low/Very Low, on a 256 MB GeForce 6800 Go Ultra. Have you looked at those settings? It's practically Polygons.

I know the card is not the pinnacle of gaming, but it can run IL-2 flawlessly with maxed out settings, I get terrific performance in World of Warcraft with everything notched up, and basically have no problems anywhere else but this game.

It has got to be one of THE WORST games I have ever bought. Performance is terrible. You have the beyond sniper enemies even when you tone them down, and it is just plane bogus.

It is sad, because you can see the great potential it had. I for one am no longer going waste my time with it though. If ya'll wanna fly that's cool. Or find another game to ground pound in, that's great too, but I won't be a part of this one.

Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 01:08
by Softball
Sorry to hear that Hudson. The game is definately a resource hog, but I have managed to find a sweet spot on my settings, I get 25-35 FPS constantly with my current settings.

What are your system specs? Are you running a dual core CPU? That may have something to do with your system performance. I'm running an AMD 64 X2 4600+ Dual core cpu, 7900GTX video, 2GB XMS DDR RAM, and 1650x1080 res in game.

I will say that ArmA is probably one of the most difficult military shooter games I have played. The AI is relatively smart, flanking and moving on your position, shooting with great accuracy, etc... Personally, I like a challenge, and if I can beat the AI with all the advantages they get, then I'll be even better vs human players. Yes, it's frustrating not to be able to beat the AI like you think you should. In the end, it's just a game. Don't let it get to you. We're all friends here and can understand your frustration.

Tonight was a weird night playing ArmA, I had graphical glitches all night, streaks of messed up polygons across my screen. ArmA is the only game that does this, so something with the game code and my video drivers aren't meshing well. Others have had graphical issues as well, and they also have Nvidia cards. Coinscidence? I think not, it's the game, it needs work.

Regardless, we'll miss you on the ArmA battlefield. :( You know where to find us if you ever change your mind.

Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 09:50
by Hudson
It's a 3.6GHz P4 with 2GB of RAM. Even then the processor only hovers around 26% CPU usage when running the game (I have hyperthreading enabled so really more like 52%)

I can give it a go on the new laptop when it comes; it's a 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo with 2 GB of RAM, so it will be much better in that arena. The X1600 graphics card isn't going to put out all that much better than the 6800 I have. Both are 256MB and most of the numbers on the 6800 are more impressive.

Still the reviews I read on the two mobile cards puts them more or less on par with each other (these are the mobile variants; the desktop 6800 trounces the desktop X1600...). I really don't see it running any better, and I refuse to waste my time trying to make it; so either it does or doesn't and that will be that.

Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 11:37
by Gator
I agree with SB on this - there is clearly something wrong with the game. I've got top-notch components and still have moments where the game has no texures and then it's beautiful. In some ways, I can't believe it was ever released. However, I bet they were trying to bring it to market before Codemasters releases the real OFP2.

Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 13:18
by Jedi Master
It sounds like nvidia's drivers have a major problem with this game right now. Letterboy and I have ATI cards and aside from occasional "texture draw in" when you whip around too fast or a destroyed vehicle looking alive until you get very close (at which point the damaged textures show up) it works fine.
The zoomed-in ironsights view for any weapon that doesn't black out your surrounding view like a sniper scope does kill performance if you're looking at a town, but even then it's usually around 10fps.

Doesn't help that nvidia has been devoting most of their energy to their Vista and 8800 drivers, leaving XP and 7xxx and below users with Nov as the last release.

Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 14:41
by Hudson
I'm using almost the latest Vista Drivers for NVIDIA, version 101.41. They're beta, but they include OpenGL support (which is vendor supported, rather than MS supported in Vista.) Trust me, it doesn't appear that all that attention is doing anything to improve performance in Armed Assault any.

They did just release non-beta driver, version 158.18 this Thursday, but being that I have a laptop I will have to wait for the modded .inf's to come around before I can install them. I will have the new laptop by the time that happens, and this thing will be running a restored copy of Windows XP ready for sale.

As I've said, I know my aging 3.6GHz P4/256 MB 6800 Go laptop is not the pinnacle of gaming machines anymore, but for the graphics I see when I bottom everything out, I don't understand why the performance is bad as it is. Seriously 640x480x32 with everything set to (very) low. Look at it. We have played age old games that look WAY better than that, and run flawlessly. There is absolutely no reason to be getting 2fps like I was last night. Nothing has changed on my system either, aside from uninstalling a few apps, as I prepare to move to the new laptop.

Anyway, the laptop I bought is a 15" MacBook Pro. It has a Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz CPU, 2GB RAM, and a 256MB ATI X1600 Graphics Card. Someone was bitching about 'only' 35 fps in Armed Assault running Windows on only a slightly older model of this laptop with everything on normal, so there is hope, but as I said, I am not forcing the issue. Either it works, or it doesn't.

Obviously, I didn't buy this one to be quite the gaming monster the last one was when it was bought, otherwise I would have been looking for a much more modern GPU. I am moving away from gaming more and more as time goes on, and Mac OS X will run World of Warcraft like a champ on that thing, so I will be happy. Dual booting to play what Windows only games I do still play is just a perk. Other than that I can run all my 'necessary' Windows software in a Virtual Machine.

Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 18:36
by Hammer
i think it is an nvidia driver thing... that beta driver still gives me issues.

i wonder if you have some other issue Hudson? something in your OS? is your machine actually seeing all of your ram? no caution signs for your hardware in device manager? all silly, rookkie things which you are not, but thought i would ask... can you try it on XP?

Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 18:42
by Hudson
I would try it on XP if it was worth it, but I should have the new laptop sometime this week, so it's not. Sees all 2046 MB of RAM; something in my system takes 2 MB off the top; think it might be the RAID controller, but yes it sees it all, and nothing in the Device Mangler is out of sorts.

Maybe it's the beta drivers.... The whole reason I installed them was because they have OpenGL support, which gave me the acceptable performance in IL-2 I wanted...

I'll be using an ATI card by next week with a little luck, so maybe I will see something different.... if not, then I'll just fly when you guys fly and well... whatever when you don't ;)

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 20:54
by Hammer
well, i am not going to uninstall it - but i am done until a new nvidia driver is out or they patch the game for me to try again. i get constant crashes...

one more thing to try, and that is go back to the previous nvidia driver.

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 22:03
by Hammer
hmmmph...

i put 97.92 drivers on and it seems o.k. actually...