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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... 00gx2.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/18/ ... x2_review/

ok so we know the 9600 was out but 9800 just hit so 8800 will most likelay drop a little more in price.

and yes thnye are avable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... e+9800+GX2

They where not on new eggs site yesterday, tho admit I expected them to be more expensive.

So I was thinking a 8800gtx in 450$ range I may just end up grabbing one of these new toys as hey it looks like a sweet toy and its basiclay 2 8800 sli together form what I gather.

O and just one more thing in this launch they also came out with there new 790i chipset so they can support ddr3 memory now.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... spx?i=3265
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 0i&x=0&y=0

Only 2 boards but ya if you like nvidia its a good time to look at there stuff. Looks like I need to re configure my system I am looking at building lol

So, this 9800 series says PCI-e 2.0. Does that mean it would not work in my current PCI-e system? I'm assuming these are backwards compatible?

I would get the 8800GTX, save some cash man. The 8800GTX rocks.

Hey Softball, is that avatar of yours the rank you got up to in the USMC? I believe that's sergeant correct?

I don't think its backwards computable, to be honest, its the newer standard, so hey we will see. They took 2 8800 GTS cards running he newer G92 hardware (all GTX 8800 run the G80 hardware). So The 8800GTS cards can be had for 300$ range and are VERY VERY close tot he 8800GTX cards.

so you could sli 2 cards together or buy this thing for about the same cost. So hey not sure yet whatI am doing but either way looks sweet. ITs like the 7950 x2 card system buff had before.


Also one nice thing this new card had a hdmi port stock, first nvidia card to have hdmi, so just think about your new tv softball, imagine lockon on there or sins.

Since I was looking on 400-500$ range anyway for video a little extra and have the best may not be that bad a idea but still need to figure out pricing. Waiting few weeks as intel has newer quad cores out now should be in stock in a few weeks. 2.66 ghz 45nm quad for 300$ sounds like fun.

PCI Express 2 cards will work in PCI Express 1 mobos. However, you won't get the full benefits. One is increased power supply so a PCI E 2 card in a PCI E 2 board won't need so much direct power cables from the PSU.

However, there's only like one PCI E 2 chipset on the market right now and it JUST came out, so it's like the AGP 4x/8x thing...an 8x card would work on a 4x board, you just didn't get the full benefit.

um the nvidia 780 and now 790 support the thign as well as several intel chipsets. So not a lot but more then 1 chipset.

there are more than one pci-e 2 chipsets... x38, 5400 are two. is the m780 out yet? they are just generally not on consumer boards yet...

and yes they are backwards compatible. i also seiousy doubt the card will need the full bandwidth of pci-e 2. it should be just fine in a pci-e 1 board.

Yes Panzer, that is SGT and that was my rank when I got out of the USMC in 1996. I had found all of the rank icons I used for WOF back when we kept ranks and awards for OFP, so I decided to use it for my avatar. Thanks for asking.

On the PCI-e 2.0, thanks for the info. I was just curious, I'm not planning on getting a new 9800 series card. If anything, I will buy another 8800GTX and run them in SLI.

for you softball that woudl be fine sinc eu got one already for me I don't so thats a good way to get 2 sli together form factory and still be faster then 2 gtx 880 sli together lol. they have a faster closk speed and such.

So are you saying that a "factory" 9800 series card is faster than (2) 8800GTXs in SLI? Or are the 9800 series cards already in SLI? (Two cards in one)

EDIT: OK, I read the article at Tom's Hardware that you linked and they are talking about the 9800 GX2. The article states that the card isn't quite ready for the market, as the drivers aren't up to speed. It also appears that the benchmark tests are on par with the 8800 ULTRA card in some games, which is the next card up from the 8800GTX. You might also have some overheating issues with that design, one heat sink for (2) GPUs. I can tell you from experience that a single GPU runs quite hot, the fan on my 8800GTX is running constantly when I play games. I'm very happy with my 8800GTX, as I'm sure you would be too. Good luck deciding what card to get.

my understanding is that the 9800 is 2 8800GTS cards running the G92 revisions (GTX are G80 revision). The 8800GTS with G92 are just a hair slower then the 8800 Ultra shich is a the GTX uped a little. But the 9800 they also uped the speed memory speed to I believe 2000mhz. So basically the took the uped GTS upgraded them a little and sli them together into 1 system. Basiclay what they did the the 7850 Buff had, 2 cards put into 1.

Read the articles I posted for details on it. But ya its 2 cards in 1 casing with shared cooling and such that connects to 1 pcie x2 port. So you get 2 of these you can sli them together giving you basically 4 cards lol. or ont he board I am getting 3 of these things lol, ok so overkill.

As for drivers same can be said when your GTX got to market, after a month or 2 they worked out buggs and the thing was even faster then when they where initaly tested. Betting same willb e true here, and in some bench marks it also spanked the competitions, so some even some it whoops. The major concern I have is again the heat as you said but its not a major cocern as hey lifetime warrentys are a good thing as long as you register right buff

but hey I am in no way certen this is the card for me, also been thinking 2 of the newer GTS cards and just SLI them together for example.

could be worse tho now also trying to figure out the ram, lol, since I am going with a board that uses ddr3, got to figure out costs. The stuff an't cheep so do I want to go with 2 gigs or 4 gigs. 4 gigs ideal and what speed do I need, if I want to overclock then the faster stuff is better. And this board is a overclockers wet dream lol.


One new thing, the ultra which they compared to the 9800, the darn thing is more expensive then a 9800 on any site I looked at. EVGA selles them in the 700$ range and this toy can be had for 600$ so um toss the ultra right out the window.

ok I just replaced my 7950X2 card I will prolly not use a double stacked card again. Biggest reason is heat...it put out a ton, and even though my case and area temps were sub 30C under a lot of load, my 8800gts knocked an average of 4C off the temps, now my average temp is 25-26C

some times bigger/newer isnt better

Well I am thinking more along the sli idea now, thinking 2 GTS or GT 8800 cards would be nice setup, more foom for heat to go with both having dedicated fan systems. Top in water cooling on motherboard chip set and cpu and the system would be a cool beast ans water cooling being quiter then a fan on cpu maybe knock the db levels down a little

Aos did some searching on GTS with G92 vs GTX and at or below the 1680-1080 level the GTS is equal and better then the GTX, but on higher resulations the GTX will win out as higher memory bandwidth. sicne I ahve a 22" monitor running at 1650-1080 anyway I think I am better sticking with GTS series save the cash and hell get 2 and SLI then get 1 GTX card.



Ok think I am going to go with 2 8800GTS g92 cards and SLI them together
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130325
There is another version of the card for 300$ but its same card just included a game, but these are 270$ without game so in the end 60$ less the the 9800, then toss in the mail in rebates for 30$ so thats 120$ less then the 9800 but basically the same thing, and no heat concerns then.

http://www.techspot.com/review/90-asus- ... o-extreme/

thats the motherboard I will be getting