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Well I am running Windows 7 RC Beta1 and I must say it is interesting. Reminds me when XP replaced WINME and 2000, I still can't understand why Vista went the way of the dinosaur, I had it since it was introduced and I saw no problems. WIN7 actually is Vista with some added eye candy and alot of linux added in for good measure.


I thought I would run a poll and see who is willing to convert to WIN7, feel free to answer.

By the way there is a new DirectX that looks to replace ten, its called eleven. Sounds familiar don't it.

Spinal Tap memorable quotes about eleven:

Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.

Vista sucked, the os was mostly stable but it had huge teathing issues mostly they blamed the video card venders but M$ did have a hand in approving the drivers themselves so its still a bad on them. There where other dumb things like the o so crapy allow or deny thing. There was a lot of crap, mostly small stuff that annoyed the crap out of people. but biggest for most was the simple fact it offered practically nothing over XP from a user standpoint. Why upgrade to something that takes more resorcess and is less refined.

Now windows 7 is vista 2 effectively, hey revamped the user interface which I admit the vista interface is annoying at best and di a lot of small improvements, basically the refined vista. Windows 7 is what Vista should have been idea. Now is vita horrible, nope but no good reasons where ever given as to why I should upgrade. To be honest it was a major marketing flop.

I will be getting windows 7 mostly for the face I want to move to 64bit, so its suppose to be good there as well but we will see. That and XP is getting old anyway, so its going to start not having rivers for it. But ya Vista was a lot of little annoyances with no reason to upgrade given in a clear form by M$ so most said they would rather upgrade to XP instead of the downgrade to the unrefined vista. Windows 7 (the name just don't make scene as no way of looking at the windows os chain dose the 7 make scene) should be a imporvmet over Vista as M$ as much as a pain as they are is not realy dumb, atleast not dumb enough to repeate Vista/ME as so far Me and Vista have 2 big flops.

Hate to say it but that thing you loved so much VEG is still there in WIN7. The lovely feature within AERO (That you can turn off) or as you call it allow or deny. Your right there was no real user upgrade beyond looks but on the backend for the tech's you get a GUI based troubleshooting platfrom from within Vista and thats what XP lacked. Now some more linux stuff has been added and I want to see how that goes over. I will give my reports as I go thru WIN7, I did notice some new ways of doing things like in the toolbar and Dreamscene is gone even though you can download a file to execute it and they added the wallpaper slideshow affect like MAC!

DA

VEGETA wrote: XP is getting old anyway, so its going to start not having rivers for it.

I heard the Euphrates is right out.

what linux stuff?

Right now I am hearing alot of integration of exsisting linux GUI stuff, but as far as features and plugins I am uncertain. Also I am hearing alot of aesthetics have been added from linux. Nobody is 100% certain right now (atleast the people I talk to).

DA

Tach Deneva wrote:

VEGETA wrote: XP is getting old anyway, so its going to start not having rivers for it.

I heard the Euphrates is right out.

LMAO!!

As for me, I will get Windows 7 but not until I read some reviews from you guys and from the guys on SimHQ first.

Vista is not and has never been that bad. Turn the graphics shit off, same thing as dropping the teletubby shit in XP that everyone used to gripe about when it came out, . Disable UAC, not more cancel or allow. If you're REALLY that upset about vista using all the memory you paid for but don't use to improve your user experience disable readyboost and superfetch, and it's xp on a bit of steroids...

I will admit to some problems with drivers in the early days, especially nvidia drivers, but most of those are resolved at this point. It's pure B.S. to cry Vista sucks; and the SP2 install I did tuesday went flawless on three computers, and boasts major stability improvements to directx apps; here's hoping any lingering nvidia problems are resolved.

the media center being included in home premium is also awesome; no need for a separate version; good times when you have a supported tv tuner card (i.e. not the quote unquote hardware pinnacle makes)

And if those few settings were really SO hard to follow go forth and fix vista:
http://www.montleon.com/pages/tuningvista/

trash talk the os for the reasons it should be trash talked; because it is made by an anti competitive, monopolistic, asshat company. Not because the whole retarded nation (+canada apparently) jumped on a band wagon faster than most guys would jump on paris hilton.

The irony is most people who install vista don't have many complaints, while those who haven't talk relentlessly about how much it sucks. I wonder if most have even performed a single double click on a vista system.

Hudson wrote:
The irony is most people who install vista don't have many complaints, while those who haven't talk relentlessly about how much it sucks. I wonder if most have even performed a single double click on a vista system.

actulay most I know who got Vista stock have downgraded to XP because Vista anoyed them so. As I stated Vista is not a horrable system, but in all hoensty it did little new for customers to justify its usage. and in business world it made a lot of apps not run on it Ie new app a company got will not work on Vista. Many business have not upgraded choosing instead to skip Vista. Hell Tests at EDS/GM showed people given vists most got annoyed with it more then anything. Not because it did not work but more they did not like the interface in general. Windows 7 aparnelty has a lot of work done to imporve the interface which i the end may be enough for many to join it.

Vista in all hoensty was a big jump for little gain.

You make some valid arguements Hudson. In my case, the reason why I didn't get Vista is because I saw no compelling reason to upgrade to it from XP. As a gamer, the only advantage I saw was DX10 and I wasn't going to go through the hassle and cost of upgrading my OS just so I could play a few games in DX 10.

Again from what I have seen so far with my install of WIN7 RC (Release Candidate), it is Vista with minor changes and a new name. The same with WINME to XP.

DA

Windows ME, was based on Windows 98 and Windows 95 before it. Windows XP came up from the NT kernel through Windows 2000; they were and are drastically different operating systems.

i would imagine more different there was much more difference between Me/XP than there is between Vista and 7

Your right Hudson, XP is a combo of 2000 and ME. It has the backbone of 2000 and the frontend cutness of ME. That was the point I was trying to make. ME was a waist of time and space in my honest opinion it had all the characteristics of 98 and 95 (all the bad ones of course) and I still wonder what was going thru those asses heads when they put that one together.

DA

This might just sell me on Windows 7 64-Bit:

http://edge.technet.com/Media/Windows-X ... Windows-7/

Hopefully there should be no need for it. Considering that with Windows Vista x64 I haven't had any applications I couldn't run 64-bit or 32-bit, I remain underconcerned. I would also hope that game developers AND Microsoft become increasingly good about compatibility with older software in Windows 7, and that the relatively minor issues with CoH and maybe one or two other apps disappear altogether.
(Minor problem with CoH: Game does nothing when you try to start it. Fix: verify game cash from within steam. Seems that it is exclusively a Vista 64-bit problem...)

I'm running the 64bit version of Windows 7. I just installed some old games like Railroad Tycoon 3 and it runs great, with the 9600GSO and boost in processor and screen resolution. I also played the demo for ARMA2 and it runs great. Everything that isn't 64bit installs into the x86 programs files folder.

DA