F-14s Shoot Down Two Libyan MiG-23s -1989 - Animated

[Trichome]

This is a great YouTube channel. This video got posted yesterday. Thought id share.

[PanzerMeyer]

I was in 8th grade when this happened!

[Bones]

I was in 8th grade when this happened!

I was a senior in high school who already had Tomcat/Top Gun fever so it sure didn't help.

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[Bones]

er ....just Swordsmen, not flying swordsmen....sometimes they are called "fighting" swordsmen, but very rarely. Fighting 32 is more common. But I'm cringing whenever they "fighting swordsmen" or "radio intercept officer" haha.

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[Bones]

Now that I've watched it all the way, there are inaccuracies and liberties taken in it. For instance, in reality, 1 Sparrow missed and 1 hit. They said 2 Sparrows missed and 1 hit.

Check this video instead, it is the actual TCS footage and audio, taken from the declassified US Navy recording.

Scroll to 01:43



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[PanzerMeyer]

I was in 8th grade when this happened!

I was a senior in high school who already had Tomcat/Top Gun fever so it sure didn't help.

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Correction, I was a junior in high school. Somehow I confused this event with the F-111 bombing mission in 1986.

[Bones]

I was in 8th grade when this happened!

I was a senior in high school who already had Tomcat/Top Gun fever so it sure didn't help.

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Correction, I was a junior in high school. Somehow I confused this event with the F-111 bombing mission in 1986.

I remember that bombing. My friend's brother, rest his soul, was an F-111 driver in that bombing raid.

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[Grifter]

Not only does this guy get the missile exchanges wrong, but I don't buy the assertion that the Libyan fighters had no idea that the Tomcats were there. That's utter nonsense! They were jinking back into the Tomcats, matching their moves. That's not by accident or happenstance. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about, or he's not accounting for that assertion being purposefully false.

[Grifter]

Bones,

In the video you posted of the original gun camera footage and audio, who is doing most of the descriptive talking? Is that pilot or is that the RIO? It sounds like it would be the pilot since he's steering the aircraft and he's describing the floggers jinking back into him several times, but is it the RIO giving those description and taking directions from the RIO as to where to point his F-14?

[Bones]

Most likely is the RIO. The RIO generally runs all the comms in the Tomcat except in very rare cases. This is why for instance when Grifter is flying and I'm RIO, I'll call, "Grifter is Fox 3" rather than him saying so.

Now the whole, "I can't get a f*cking tone!"--that's the pilot. But that's because that is in the ICS (intercockpit system) so the pilot and RIO can talk to each other off the radio net--Grifter and I do this in TS is whisper mode.

Some of those lines in the video you may find familiar. TTI or Snowfox use those lines sampled from this recording. Falcon 4 used alot of it in the menu background music. It is a pretty popular recording now (not so back in 1989). It first showed up, complete with transcript and explanation in 1995's "Fleet Defender Gold" by Microprose, and was very well done. I wonder if anyone has the video version of the SHockwave Flash presentation that came with the sim then.

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