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Clarification needed here.

Posted: 26 Jul 2004, 13:48
by Grifter
Sounds like Saudi's are trying to protect Israel but object to US/European involvement in that region. Can Hammer or someone else explain so I can dish out some background intel on the area? Need to understand what Saudi's are supposedly pissed about in this campaign.


Hammer wrote in his prologue:


Israel has been attacked from all borders simultaneously and from within by infiltrators, and is reeling on its heels to fight back. Saudi Arabia has professed its discord for the "Coalition of the Willing" has adopted full support of Isreal, including forces and monetary needs. Saudi Arabia is threatening to breadk all ties with the Unites States and Great Britian, and Australia if NATO and its key players do not stand down in Isreal.

Posted: 26 Jul 2004, 13:55
by Grifter
Also, some may be confused by S. Vietnam and S. Korea joining forces with the rest of CICU willingly. Especially since S. Vietnam is currently moving towards a more capitalists economy and profiting from it. I think i read somewhere that small and large exporting businesses have been developing there for quite some time. These two countries may or may not be willing participants since this takes place in a hypothetical future, but it just seemed a bit odd to me that, at least in S. Vietnam's case, is making money in the global economy. Not sure about S. Korea either. shrug.

Posted: 26 Jul 2004, 14:11
by Gator
ummm ....

there currently is no S. Vietnam. There is only one Vietnam ... the communist one. But you are correct - they are "opening up."

Posted: 26 Jul 2004, 17:55
by Grifter
Yeah, that's right too. There is only one Vietnam. Yeah I thought I had read that somewhere. Maybe we'll cross them off the list. I have seen that some S. Koreans, not suprisingly, are resentful of US presence.

Posted: 26 Jul 2004, 19:05
by Madrus
Those S. Koreans who resent US presence should shove it up their ......

If we had left 50 years ago, they would be sharing misery and starving with their N. Korean relatives.

We'll leave when they pay the bill for 50 years of stationing troops there.

Posted: 26 Jul 2004, 19:20
by Grifter
word up to that yo.

Posted: 27 Jul 2004, 10:56
by Hammer_other
Grif-you say that Irote that bit in my prologue. Correction-you added that bit in. I apologize if I'm wrong, but I'm certain that I am right.

Posted: 27 Jul 2004, 13:51
by Grifter
Sorry man, but I did'nt add that bit in. But, no matter. I think I found a way to work with everything developed here. Will post soon.

Posted: 27 Jul 2004, 14:21
by KODIAK
Very impressive guys! You are actually talking and co-operating and discussing and searching for solutions together. Makes a change from what's going on over at Frugal's, and to some degree at FreeFalcon. It just drags you down the way they go on over there at the moment. :( And that used to be one of the most friendly sites to visit.

Posted: 27 Jul 2004, 18:05
by Hammer
No Hammer, you did not write that in the original. Folks, here is the link to the thread in which Hammer put his original ideas down:

http://www.wings-of-fury.com/phpBB/view ... 92&start=0

Here is the link from which Grif took this:

http://www.wings-of-fury.com/phpBB/view ... 88&start=0

Look who the author is on that first thread: Raptor. Now we of course know where the f*^k-ups came from. ;) :D

There is no South Vietnam. Isreal is one of our top allies, and so is Saudi Arabia. Unless something changes in the next 10 years...

Maybe that part should be re-written. It is O.K. to do so.

Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 11:18
by Grifter
Well, I worked with Raptor's post and elaborated. I should be posting it here soon as a CIA Assessment Report. Stay tuned.