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2nd most powerful man in the states you mean not world


Hry He hs no power over mehere in canada Eh

but aneway cool
u shoul dhave asked the service guy to look at the mp5 ehhehe. I am cernet he would have been noice and have you have a look
heheheheh :gulp:

No, VEG he probably would have beat our good 5th Battalion buddy hear to death, molested him, and I don't want to even imagine what else.

My arse BB!!!! :moon :moon :moon

The most powerful guys in the world are the economists. And if we are talking about sheer destructive power (you guys seem to like that dont you?? ;) ) then you said it yourself......the Russians have more!! Who gives a toss if they are guided, if you can get them to take off and land then you cause damage no matter how.

Please dont start this 'we are all-conquering, all-ruling' b/s.

Glas

I would like to point out to any visitors or new pilots that Big Benn is a 'Care in the Community' case. Buff and the guys in the 21st have taken him in and are trying to get him back into society. They are doing well and now BB can go out on the steets for an afternoon with only two minders. He does have the occasional set back and is often seen standing naked on top of the Assault mech hangar sceaming "I'm King of the world". This is usually coolant induced.

You have it all wrong...the most powerful thing is the world are the furry bunnies in my back yard they talk to me...they tell me things...bad things...they tell me to not trust anybody except them....muuuhaaaa

Hey you see them too?

Wow! Other people have bunnies too?

the most powerful thing is the world are the furry bunnies in my back yard

Havn't they just released a film about this?


Malin

Ok sorry to bring this up again but hey, You forget china, as a power. Ther epopulation and army size are well massive compared to the states. And thye have a shit lot of nucks as well. The states is powerfule but hey you can not call thme the most powerful people by any means. theyhave great influance but hey. Also Canada says thye don't ut hey we have had a few nuck siloes for years, thanks to states.

Now hey you wan tot talk economic, if you relay study the economy, the urepion union is realy realy gian in power. From what analests are saying they well become the most powerful economic center in the world ina while, removing it form US/Canada. Together we are considered the biggest now but its slipping hehehee.

But hey If I am in cina why would this guy (important as he is) control me. He realy has no control over me then. And hey the states use nukes they can get nucked so nucks are more deterent, called mutualy assured distruction. Why the hell would be that stupiod (hope I never meat them).

No move to canada, he is powerful and can have a affect on canada depending on decisions of military and economy say closing th borders. That costs us big. Or getting into a nuck fight we are next door, ya we well have the fallout as well and well be fucked same as you. But those are changes based on what he gets the US as a contery to do, he cant just change cnaadian economy without doing somthing that affects his own. So to say he is 2nd most powerful in the world is wrong. To say he is a man of greate infulance in the world would be correct as the states have much sway in the world But so dose the urapine union. They do somthing economicaly these dyas it can affect everyoone as well.

Sorry ben, but had to make things right. Yhe us is big and bad but in no way over everyone hehehehe. I defentaly agree he is not a small man, he is powerful but can't be considered 2nd most powerful in world. And ina ll honesty there is npoway to judge who is most powerful in the world. There are several powers in theis world who could fuck up or make everyhting. Hope its the make and not break that happens. Now one thing , this worl seas to be moving in directiion of a global economy and ultumentaly one world goverment. But hey I don't know If any of us well live to see a global goverment. Now in a global goverment I assume it wouls stil be devided into cuntries and such but thye all have one top goverment above then. Aneay just food for thought. But if we get a global goverment then hey then we hcan say they are the most powerful entity in th world. But are in no way the most powerful entinty in the universe, thats ET ehehhhe :gulp:

The peerson who has the most control over my life is... Well there is this really hot student aide in one of my classes and I do not have the courage to talk to her. :luvstruck: :-?
Sorry for going off-topic

I thought as ELH we were all on the same team here. I have no doubt that the Americans in the unit are proud of their country and rightly so. The problem comes with the assumption that others are not equally as proud of their own nations.

I think he was just overjoyed at shaking hands with Dick.

Uhhhh.... <giggles>

LMAO
Don't mind me, I've been a political pisser since Oklahoma took the reform party off the ballot in 2000.

Fethr

Well BB its not solely an American thing. I once saw this cretin wearing Union Jack shorts. I asked the moron if he was proud of his country? The retard replied he was. So I then asked why, if he was so proud, was he wearing our flag round his arse!

It was around then I became a convert to "covert carriage of firearms by civilians"

Ok guys one thing Canada has been voated the best place in the world to live several years runing by UN and has been in top 5 for a DAM LONG time. hehehehhe Had to say that one. YES we beat states ehhehehe. hey got nothing against states, but in no way do I consider your present most powerful man in the world. And note, look at urapean union, i is growing fast, the new currencey they got value keeps going up. Between all the cuntries over there, they wee beable to easealy compeate witht he states in the future. ITs not just one cuntery, its many pooling resorces ehhehe.

Also hey you like clean water down there and the eastern sea bord likes power right ehhehe. Gess who sells that to the us. Yes canada, ehhehehe we basicaly power your eastern sea bord from grand falls power plant and a few others hehehe. And clean water we got lots hehehe. If all cuntries stopeed talking and shipping to each uther even the states would have a DAM hard time getting buy. Look at how many things in your house say made in japan. This is why I say you can not say this person is more powerful then another. Because we are all dependent on others as well.

Ben I well never agree he is the most powerful man in the world, but I also agree untel we see world goverment we well never have a most powerful man / group in with world. You your self have already stated no one could go up against china. So its hard to say that the vice preedent is the second most powerful man int he world. If you insest on saying polisitions are powerful, then there is russa and oher cubtries to look at as well. Hell Canada is SO highley respected in the UN, that we could even have a run at most infulencual in thw world hehehe. But hey I am not going to say we ar emore powerful or anytrhing. We depend on each other that simple. So hey. Ben trust me I have won MAN?Y agruments like this against guys form the states. I love the fact that you are like us in the idea of loving the cuntery. But dam it Other people atre just as good as you guys ehhehe. Not better not worse, think in terms of equals and think in terms of "can't we all just get along" :gulp:

When looking at the most powerful person in the world it is better to look at the corporations.

You will then see that alot of goverments (UK's included) form policy on the basis of influence applied by said corporations.

Afterall, it takes money to get into goverment and guess who supplies the money.

Malin

Famous saying "Nothing in life comes free"

As I said, in the "real" world (thats not the one Buff lives in :lol: ) The corporations are the most powerful. Why?

Easy, Corporations control the money, the Corporations money pays for the political campaigns, the money the Corporations then controls the politicians and as a result the Corporations decide the policy.

Some of this policy involving where the goverment is going to use it's army.

Malin

It is understandable that china has relied on large numbers of troops. I am not surprised. I think china's military officer's need to read ol' Sun Tzu's The Art of War. The U.S. military is well trained and organized, but the airforce is over-dependent on technology. It would be cheaper to use a MK 82 than a paveway on a target. The U.S. military competes within the four branches of the armed services. For funding primarily. What i said about the Mk82 being cheaper than the paveway will probably be shot down by som1 saying that the aircraft is more expensive. The U.S. wouldn't last in a war of attrition. If the Air Force sustained the same losses as it did in WW2. The U.S.'s AF would be no more at the end of a week or two. Besides that most militaries are too humanitarian. If you are a pilot and you're ordered to bomb a munitions plant that is next to a children's hospital would you follow orders? That is one reason the U.S. lost Veitnam our civies got really upset that civies were being deliberately attacked.
"Wars are not won by respectable methods." Some allied slutty spy said that after WW2.
I apologize for going off topic. If one has enough determined followers and the will to win he/she will likely become the most powerful person on the Earth. But all military campaigns that attempted that have failed.
I doubt that somone could be elected to be that president or whatever of earth there are too many differences in societies.
Okay my head hurts and I need to do my wonderful Homework.
This is what I think of republicans :barf: and here is what I would love to do to Mr. President Bush :moon

Ben im sorry but if the US Prez was the most powerful person in the world bar none, then you wouldnt have needed the likes of Britain to assist you so greatly in the War on Terror (in fact there would be no argument about hitting Iraq, if it wasnt for the UK, the US wouldnt have a leg to stand on against the rest of the world's opinions, it is the UK who has canvassed the rest of the world for support and have obtained that support to a greater degree than Dubya ever could....he's not the most diplomatic of leaders after all ;) ).

In addition, there is a major chain of command and many procedures that the Prez would have to go through before he would ever get to touch 'the button', so it therefore goes to say that the person who is actually at the controls is even more powerful than the Prez as it is him who has the power to flick the switch.

Finally, apart from testings, Russia have never fired a nuke in anger. What makes you so qualified to determine that Russia's warheads would not be capable of reaching US or of hitting it's target?? Do you know something the scientists, phycisists, economists, politicians, etc dont? I doubt it........

As i said before and you admitted yourself, if Russia fired all it's nukes at once and US done the same, Russia would make a bigger hole in the ground. Nuff said!! :roll:

Glas

Well guys, in reality both of your points are moot. In the case of the nuclear war you are discussing no one would win, and many, many other folks that have nothing to do with it would die as well... The earth as we know it would be in serious trouble...

That is why folks like me exist! Conventional warfare is the only way to die!!!

Well, actually I will likely die from something else - private plane crash, motorcycle accident, etc...

Ok first off the Russans have many more nuckes then the us. If say 20% don;t make it over here well they well stil have more hitting us soil. And in all honesty ITS A DAM NUKE. it makes one hell of a explosion. Wow u are 100 miles of target, just the falout alown fro all that messess everyone up. n a nuke fight, everyone loses, end of story. so as far as I am concerned, no smart persons hands are over any button. So as far as anyone should be concerned a lot of people got nukes, so it can not be used as a way of telling how powerful you are as no eon wants to use then, minus a few teriorests / roge cuntries.

You say the UN neads you. HAHAHHAHAHHHA Sorry there is over 100 nations in the UN, you leave sorry but that means ther eis still a shit lot there who all have some military might. And as for training, the basic us troop is not as highley trained as you would like to think. Yes they are good but not best. The Canadian troops are much more well trained then the average US troop. You do a huge number of military excercises in CFB Gagetown (worlds bigest milirtary bace, and its canadian) ad gess what in mock fights we win. So hey you have numbers and special detatchements that help you out there but hey. Sorry Ben but had to put this in. Now as for you specia forces, they are Exece;emt troops , navey seals are another example but thye ar elimited numbers.

Now again I realy like the point that was made that the US needed britans help in there war on terisum. If it was not there then what would the US doo. Maby still do the war thing but hey no one would support them, and if it ended up bad, then its your issue, and even the US only has so many resoreces. You have to rember this world is dependent, we need thi cunerey for this, that one for that ... So last thing you do is piss off everyone, meaning you screw your self. Now if you don;t have the ability to piss off ereryone and get away with it without concenquences then hey you are dam powerful. but hey as I stated before you get a lot of power from canada and clean water. Thats ther eif shut off is a huge issue on its own. So in no way can we saw the US is self sufficent, meaning hey you piss everyone off you can lose big time.

Now hey the power bases of this world realy DO NOT lie in goverments. Corporations are a huge thing in tis word. If they are not there the goverment has nothing to bargen with such as trade and things because you have n trade. Again another dependencey. So hey ther eis a huge power baste ther enot giverment controled. Just taxed a bit.

Since Militery the presedent can';t just push a button, he has people to deal with first, this can not be considered as proving someone is not the most powerful. Basicaly we have someone to blame after the face, but thats it. Since we have dependanceys on each other, again you screw up the flow of dependenceys by stupiod moves, you agian screw yourself. So you again can not consider yourself to powerful as you reley on others. And then there is the idea of Corporations having huge influance which again means the US gocerment don't want to piss them off ot they again screqw themselves. Take M$, why the hell you think they are still one companey. They aso seam to donate cash to goverment, big suprise.

So this alown is more then enough to say hey no one person can be considered most powerful. Yes perople can be powerful but you can not say who is the top dog. Even the presedent have to answer to people. So Ben again sorry but you are wrong, the US presedent if powerful but can not be called the most powerful person int he world. But no one can be considered the most powerful in the world, because we are all dependent. Again sorry Ben, I am not set in my ways but people learn with me when I know I am right, I don't back down. I keep proving my point, and can continue to do so. So no offence, might as well let it go, I am a ass hehehe and I know I am right, its a bad combo for others ehhehe :gulp: