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DP Desal

Posted: 02 Nov 2003, 16:41
by Madrus
This map works in Co-op Mission, but not Co-op Terrorist Hunt or Hostage Rescue. No AI are spawned in either of the last two types. Well, I guess the Hostage Rescue partially works - the hostages are there. You just walk over and get them. Then you have to herd them into the exfiltration square at gun point. Or just ethnically cleanse them.

Posted: 02 Nov 2003, 18:43
by Grifter
good to know thanks. Will play the map next week then.

Hostages

Posted: 27 Nov 2003, 17:22
by Hudson
How come all the hostages in RvS are white anyway? Are they trying to say something? Like white hostages are the only ones worth saving? That's F'ed up man. Ubi is whack.

Posted: 27 Nov 2003, 21:35
by KODIAK
I hate to be the one to say this but please shut up about that shit! I am SO hacked-off listening to people whining about political correctness - it just ain't funny any more. Don't you people realise that the ethnic minority is the white man - in his own country, no less. Period! There ain't no such thing as the repressed black man anymore.
These days no-one even gives it a second thought - blackman screams rape and in the blink of an eye another white boy bites the dust - all the while he sits on his ass smoking dope and bleeding the economy dry by making false illegal benefit claims from ther state. And if you think it's bad over here, come to the UK! 8O

Posted: 27 Nov 2003, 22:50
by Hammer
Kodiak,
Sorry, but you are very wrong about the minority races no longer being suppressed/oppressed. Things have come a long way in the U.S., but they are still not where they should be. And when was the last time you were actually in the deep south and witnessed the 'equality'??? With that said, there are several instances in my own personal experience where white persons have been discriminated against because they were white...or at least not even considered for a position of employment. This discrimination was not conducted by those of the typical minority race either.

Now, about all the hostages being white? Eh, who cares - it is a game. I seriously doubt anyone was trying to make any sort of statement - period.

Posted: 28 Nov 2003, 00:26
by Madrus
Oh boy; now here's a topic sure to incite some passion. In my opinion:

1. Political correctness is nonsense. It is an attempt by liberals to limit free speech by conservatives or anyone who does not agree with them. If you hold another viewpoint you should shut up and not exercise your freedom of speech.

2. I tend to agree with Kodiak. Western cultural institutions, capitalism, and Christianity are under attack like no other time in our country's history. And the white male has the target on his back, not the black man.

3. This endless yammering about reparations and affirmative action does nothing to advance the ideals of equality that should be our goal. I have taught Math in an inner-city, nearly all black school and there is no question in my mind that blacks can perform identically as whites. But having lower expectations of minorities, or lowering standards to pass them on to the next grade, only perpetuates the stereotype that they are victims.

4. " there are several instances in my own personal experience where white persons have been discriminated against because they were white...or at least not even considered for a position of employment. This discrimination was not conducted by those of the typical minority race either." I have also seen instances of this, also, Steel. Does it matter that the discrimination is by a white person acting in accord with political correctness or a black person acting on behalf of blacks, or by anyone else with any of a number of reasons based on race? No; because the qualified white person is still out of a job or opportunity. And discrimination based on race is wrong no matter who is the victim or who is discriminating.

5. At present, I see & hear many more instances of racism by blacks than whites. Examples: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Kwaisi Infume.

6. Every minority in the US has experienced oppression/suppression to varying degrees. Every minority in the US still experiences oppression/suppression to varying degrees. I do not expect it ever to disappear completely. But no other country provides so much opportunity to their minorities. Things are still not where they should be? IMHO, things will be where they should be when some people spend as much time getting an education, getting a job, getting married, and raising a family or pursuing a career as they spend whining about someone else's racism.
Things will be where they should be when black students who want an education are not made fun of, or persecuted, or called sell outs or Uncle Toms, or ridiculed by other blacks. Blacks are not choosing to enter the computer sciences, the sciences, or the professions like medicine, and accounting in the same numbers as whites or other minorities - and where are the best paying entry level jobs? Instead, modeling, acting, sports, music and illegal activities are held up as goals (not by most Blacks, but a loud and vocal and highly visible media) - and these opportunities typically start out at much lower pay, success is much more elusive, extremely specialized skills are required, and physical danger comes with drugs and crime.

7. To illustrate how far the US has come: the US outlawed slavery almost 140 years ago; some African and Asian countries still allow it.

8. And in the final analysis, no amount of discrimination, suppression, and oppression keeps a black man and a black woman from getting married, having children, going to church, and raising children who do well in school, get jobs, and go on to do the same. There are plenty of blacks who do just that; they just don't get the attention that the race pimps like Jesse Jackson does. IMHO it is the so-called black leadership that perpetuates racism and has a vested interest in keeping racism going. As does the white liberal Democrat leadership - the modern day plantation owners who are opposed to people like Janice Rogers Brown, the black woman judge from the California Supreme Court, from being nominated to the Federal bench. Instead of promoting a successful black woman, they call this woman who gets 70+ percent of the vote in predominantly liberal California a right wing extremist and a Neanderthal. Yeah, discrimination does exist, but it is not from the people you expected.

Gee and I was trying to make a joke

Posted: 28 Nov 2003, 12:40
by Hudson
and I started a riot :roll:

Posted: 28 Nov 2003, 13:04
by Hammer
Madrus,
You are right on in many points. Well said sir! I do still think that the white power base is very much de facto - although it is starting to crumble. The writing is on the wall for the good ole boys clubs, and for that I am thankful. You are right, there will likely always be dicsrimination...but things are getting better all the time. Whatever each if us can do to prevent perpetuate of it, we are all that much the better off.

Discrimination and racism is abhorrent - period. It does not matter who does it.

Posted: 28 Nov 2003, 17:09
by Madrus
No problem Hudson. Once again an example of the maturity of people to express themselves in this forum without it deteriorating into a personal attack or worse.

I just love this group of guys.

Well, maybe not love; that might be kinda gay. :?