My new computer

[Grifter]

Soyo Dragon Platinum Edition via KT600 chipset, ATX mobo with AMD AthlonXP 3200+ and 640 RAM is now up and running...running very fast at that. I'm a very, very happy camper because I can now run windows xp. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTT!

[PanzerMeyer]

Cool! What video card do you have running on that system?

You may want to go up to 1024 RAM before too long. With 640 RAM, you'll probably be using a lot of your paging file with some games.

[KODIAK]

Nice. I could really do with upgrading my CPU to a 3200, and my RAM too. We'll see how the money goes these next few months, my priority is my golf clubs at the moment. Towards the winter time, I'll concentrate on my computer more. Although I'd really like to get my hands on a TrackIR3 sometime sooner rather than later.

[Grifter]

Well I'm hoping to upgrade the ram this Christmas. Like Kodiak said, money is a factor. I have a Radeon 9500 pro 128 RAM. It's not the best, but I'm happy with it overall. I'll most likely upgrade to the new monster cards when they come down in price. I would also like to get a new HD for christmas as well, money allowing of course. :roll: 20 gigs is simply not enough room any more. I saw a nice SATA 200 gb hd for 100 bucks on bzboys. Thinking that might be the way to go, but I'm still shopping around.

[KODIAK]

Talking of computers, I have a 2500XP Barton, 512MB RAM on a ASUS A7N8X Deluxe, Gainward GeForce4 4600Ti, 80Gb & 120Gb hard drives.
Now when I check my system, it shows my CPU as running at 1.1GHz, surely that's not right eh? Surely it should indicate something like 2.0 or 2.1 GHz, is this something to do with bus speed? Any help on that would grateful, cos if my system isn't running at potential I'm missing out.

[Nemisis]

Yup Kodiak the AMD XP2500+ should run at 1.833Ghz!!

Sounds like your bios has it set to run at minimum compatible speeds that it will auto detect when first installed!

A simple change in the bios is all that is needed.

Your chip should run at 166Mhz FSB and a multiplier of 11.

2 ways of doing this is to tell the bios manually to run at this speed but the bios should have stored presets for different chips and you should just have to pick XP2500 out of the list and it will change the FSB and multiplier acordingly.

[KODIAK]

Thanx mate - sorted now, as you know already!

[daofcmacg]

I have a AMD XP2400 Processor in my pc as well and I have the very same problem which I know I ordered a 2.20 chip and XP is registering it at 1.25. For the longest I just told myself it was a glitch in windows not thinking of the BIOS.

DA

[KODIAK]

Well, DA, just follow those instructions and you should get a result, mate. I knew basically it had something to do with my FSB speed, but didn't know about the multiplier part. So I'm sorted now - easy. Am sure it'll be noticeable a little in the online side of things too - I'm running effectively about 1/3 faster now, so it will make a difference for sure.

[Nemisis]

I have an Xp2400 as well DA and it runs at 2Ghz standard speed at 133Mhz and a multiplier of 15.

As Kodiak stated just follow my instructions above to get your self up to speed.

[KODIAK]

Just a question here, guys. If you are both running an XP2400, and I have an XP 2500 - why in the hell are you two guys running faster that I am? Surely, I should have the higher speed? I am aware you are talking also of using x 15 instead of the x 11 multiplier like suggested to me. Nem, you seem to ahve the handle on these AMD chips, what's the story there, because I am under the impression the Barton chip (which was supposed to be the latest on the block) was exactly that, not to mention it was the powerchip at the time. And I'm sure it was purchased after yours.

[Nemisis]

AMD chips come in a variety of core types buddy.

Most types of XP chip are of the older thoroughbred type:

XP1600/1700/1800/1900/2000/2100/2200/2400/2600/2700 and 2800

These are all thoroughbred chips (there is an A and B version of the thoroughbred) which all have a higher clock speed and running temp but have smaller level 1 and 2 cache on them and hey also run at a slower FSB but have higher multipliers, so they are all not as good as the Barton Core XP chips.

Barton Chips:

XP2500/2600/2800/3000/3200

All barton chips run at higher FSB 333Mhz, have higher level 1 and 2 Chache on them and run at lower temps.

XP3000+ and 3200+ having an even higher FSB than the rest (400Mhz) although there is a slower 333Mhz version of the XP3000+.

You will notice that there is a duplicatesin the list here this is because there is a 2800 version of both thoroughbred and Barton Chip.

And to make things even more comlicated there is an even older version of the slower chips called the Palamino these range from XP1500 > XP2100 so in some cases there are 3 versions of the same chip on the slower XP's ie. XP1800+ Palamino/XP1800+ Thoroughbred A/XP1800 Thoroughbred B

The latest AMD chips for the Athlon 64 and FX's are called ClawHammer and Sledger hammer Respectively.

Basically these differences are the Same as Intels Pentium 3 + 4 although there are different versions of each of those chips as well :roll: .

OH and Kodiak your AMD XP2500+ might actually be an XP3200+!!

The reason behind this is that when the Barton core was launched there was a lot more demand for the XP2500+ than the XP3200+ and they are both made from the exact same silicon wafers, so AMD changed some of there XP3200 stock to be XP2500+ stock to keep u with demand for that chip.

So there are a lot and i do mean a lot, of XP2500's out there that can happily run at the higher XP3200+ FSB simply because they are XP3200's rebadged.

[Hammer_other]

I've got a nice little Barton in my mobo, the two options are 2500 and 3200

[KODIAK]

What would be the method for determination of that fact? Given that I am using an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe mobo and appropriate BIOS. ShouldI go get a loom at updated BIOS from ASUS? I know the best I can get from FSB selection is 200 in BIOS AFAIKR.
By the way, any time you are ready for a re-test, of Falcon 4 SP4.1 I have it re-installed. My textures look a bit funky though, def something wrong there, and I am having small issues with changing views which takes a long time. Any hints grateful.

[Nemisis]

For your chip bump your FSB up to 200FSB to make it a 3200, but check what speed your memory is, if it is anything less than PC2700 then putting your FSB up to 200Mhz will be pushing it to far and cause instability in your system.

But your mobo might be like mine and allow you to bump up your FSB to the processor while keeping your memory and PCI slots at there rated speed if so then you should not have a problem since even the non 3200 Barton chips are great for overclocking up to 200 FSB at 11 multiplier, hence why they are a lot more popular than 3200 chips why pay another £100 for a faster chip when you can get nigh on the same chip for less?

Hints for your Falcon install that is giving you problems in the textures and views are as follows.

REINSTALL AGAIN! then Defrag!

[KODIAK]

Hints for your Falcon install that is giving you problems in the textures and views are as follows.

REINSTALL AGAIN! then Defrag!

. . . .and a tip for you on what to do with your hint: F**k off! :lol: :lol:
Anyway, bumping my FSB up, and will see what I get. Whaere should I be looking for the speed increase - same place?

[KODIAK]

Well mate - did that, but once WinXP loads, it sits waiting as if it's busy.