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Post by Hammer »

i will bet there is no real incentive/motivation to fix the sound stuff since it is intended more for servers...
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Post by Hudson »

Here is the link from my server Kodiak, hopefully you will have better luck with this

http://www.montleon.com/vmwareserver.exe
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Post by Hudson »

I doubt there is much incentive without me providing more information to give the warm and fuzzy that is an actual bug and not a problem with my hardware/software configuration.

Once I can reasonably see where things are breaking and prove it is a bug someone will want to fix it. I have complained about many many bugs, some of them very essoteric in nature (rm_ldap module in free radius crashing when authenticating against an LDAP server using a self-signed SSL cert anyone?)

I've always gotten an answer back, and except in the case of one where there was VERY little information to provide (system freezing hard when starting Gnome desktop, but not KDE) I got a fix. I almost sent the box to the gentleman trying to work on the problem because he seemed as perplexed as I did; in the end though I didn't care enough to bother.

Heck in the case of the rlm_ldap module the developer provided me the code fix, and the basics to rebuild the rpm and install it so I could fix it myself on the spot before the upstream FreeRadius developers fixed it, and RedHat released it as an update. How's that for service? You'd never see that with Microsoft because of the nature of closed source software! :D

Linux developers are nothing else if not passionate about their code.
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Post by KODIAK »

So, what are the advantages/disadvantages of other OS in respect of WinXP for example?
It is not the technique that wins a fight, but the more furious mind - Kodiak WOF

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Pros and Cons

Post by Hudson »

Hmmm,
Linux the pro's are that every damn thing you could want to do with your computer you can do for free. Office and Productivity, Web Hosting, image editing, programming and software development, grid & cluster computing, and anything in between. All for free. The only downside is that there are not nearly enough games for us types. A little harder to configure and get running properly on your hardware than windows in most cases too. If you are looking to install it on something like VMWware, that for the most part emulates very standard hardware, you shouldn't have a problem. For beginners some of the best distributions are probably CentOS, Fedora, or Mandrake. Linspire might be good for a beginner too, but it's also not free. As a beginner stay away from Gentoo, the stupidest distribution on the planet I might also add in my completely non humble opinion, Slackware, and to a lesser extent Debian.

Solaris is much in the same vein as Linux now. With OpenSolaris you even have access to the code which didn't used to be true. Solaris truly shines on Sun hardware. Something just ain't right about running it on intel/amd processors (not that that should stop you from experiencing the operating system.) Solaris IS the de facto standard of what a hard core stable, full featured, and outstandingly powerful enterprise operating system should be. Many would argue that IBM with AIX or HP with HP-UX have taken the lead, but Solaris was there first, and it is just hard to improve on the best. Again, if you are looking to install it on something like VMWware that for the most part emulates very standard hardware you shouldn't have a problem.

Novell has eDirectory. One of the best directory services available. It beat out anything Banyan had by a mile, and was doing it LONG before Microsoft even thought about Active Directory. Too bad it is housed by the most craptastic operating system on the planet. You've seen my screen shots of my Netware Server. I run it, and I know how. That doesn't mean that I have anything more than zero respect for it. I have seen the supposed 'ultimately stable' operating system crash many times in a corporate environment. We're talking about print services abbend'ing and taking down an entire server. Almost EVERY other modern OS on the planet has some form of automatic updating, and Netware still has none. The servers require client software that is compatible with about 0 third party software, and makes heinous judgements about the networking environment that cause it to work like crap with the rest. Sure it can be configured to work, but that configuration is essoteric (often involving editing the registry and reading confusing TID's), and a major PIA the to accomplish. The server basically requires a windows workstation to administrate it from, or at least most easily administrate it from. If you really wanted to run eDirectory you could run it on Windows or Solaris anyway.

BSD in all its forms (NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, etc.) is probably not the best beginner OS. In the same (ok not quite) vein as Linux, but often considered even more secure and stable. Also harder to configure in most cases.

Mac OS X, is pretty and flashy. Also stable and VERY easy to use. If you want to run it you can get a cheap used or new Mac or use PearPC to emulate the hardware on PC, but it is very slow to use. Obvious detractors are the lack of games, and either requires expensive hardware or sluggish emulation that currently has no sound support.

I could go on with more like ReactOS, BeOS, Plan 9, (ok that last one is a stretch), but that should be enough to get you on some searches and reading.
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Post by KODIAK »

Okay then, from that lot, I would guess probably some form of Linux would be reasonable start point, eh? But to be a total beginner; CentOS, Fedora, Mandrake, Linspire are best choices. well, I'll go have a short dig and see what I find, & download it.
By the way, thanx fopr the link. I've d/l'd vmware from your server and am getting ready to install. Can't understand why it would stop me from d/l'ing from the main site.
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Here's some....

Post by Hudson »

Here's some info about different Linux distributions:

Oi!, No link for you!
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KODIAK
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Post by KODIAK »

Oi, you! Stop taking all the fun out of it for me now . . . . . having to guess what to put in the search engine is half the fun you know. And gives me an excuse to be on the computer longer too! :lol: 8)
It is not the technique that wins a fight, but the more furious mind - Kodiak WOF

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Post by Hudson »

I do believe I just got Oi'ed! I think that's the first time I've ever been Oi'ed at :lol: Very well then, the link is edited out. Go find your own damn distro :P

MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
KODIAK
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Post by KODIAK »

Too late, my friend . . . .I already placed it in my favourites folder!! 8) :lol:
It is not the technique that wins a fight, but the more furious mind - Kodiak WOF

You are stuck on stupid. I'm not going to answer that question! - Gen Honore, New Orleans Sep 05
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That's OK

Post by Hudson »

You were done once you downloaded that VMWare software from *MY* server. Your favorites are actually now MY favorites. It's only there because *I* want it there :lol: :shock: :lol:
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Post by KODIAK »

:roll:
Okay, well I'll be installing and taking a look at that sometime this weekend, when I can find enough time. Watch the forum for a screaming demented old man who can't get his head round anything . . . . . . . . :lol: :wink:
It is not the technique that wins a fight, but the more furious mind - Kodiak WOF

You are stuck on stupid. I'm not going to answer that question! - Gen Honore, New Orleans Sep 05
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Xen

Post by Hudson »

Well, after I got passed the bug in the installer, I got hit by a bug in the boot loader. The bootloader can leave a FIFO file lying around that makes it impossible to restart the domain after installing, unless you delete it. Unfortunately the error message wasn't very telling.

I let my install go all night (http install...), and woke up just in time to watch it finish. Then I couldn't start it again. finally used strace (at a developers suggestion and with their guidance) to figure out what was going wrong and have since been able to restart my domain.

So far, Xen needs a lot of work! Two bad bugs, and that's just getting installed and rebooted for the first time, not to mention my problems with the hypervisor kernel and alsa-libs. :wink:
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Post by KODIAK »

That many problems? Just tell me I don't need to worry about my little project, and I'll be happy! :lol: 8)
Oh, and now that you're on this thread instead of the other one, it's time for you to breathe deeply & slowly, count to ten (count to five twice for anyone in the Marine Corps :lol: :roll: :wink: ), and take a chill pill. That's better, now let's relax into an afternoon of typing and playing games, chatting nicely to your wife etc., . . . . . 8)
It is not the technique that wins a fight, but the more furious mind - Kodiak WOF

You are stuck on stupid. I'm not going to answer that question! - Gen Honore, New Orleans Sep 05
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You're good

Post by Hudson »

I think for the Marine Corps I shouldn't work the gears that hard. I'll try counting to 3 three times, and then to 1 one time. :P

You're project should be good. Xen has nothing to do with VMware. I have VMware Server running, and it seems quite stable. I suspect you shouldn't have many problems.
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Post by KODIAK »

Cool! I'll have a go at installing today sometime then. Then take a peek as they say.
Anyway, I wonder if there will be any gaming today - am up for some Pacific Fighters or Falcon4:AF, maybe even some OFP cos I need to see if my set-up is working on that. PAcific Fighters has a new update patch which includes the Mosquito FB Mk.VI and the Tempest Mk.V. I've had a play around, but my bombing is abysmal, although the aircraft seem quite controllable and docile enough to be able to throw around quite hard. I DO like!! 8)
It is not the technique that wins a fight, but the more furious mind - Kodiak WOF

You are stuck on stupid. I'm not going to answer that question! - Gen Honore, New Orleans Sep 05
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Post by Hudson »

See that's the nice thing about open source. Have a problem? Developer too busy fixing something else? Then go ahead and hack it to pieces yourself and make it work.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/sh ... ?id=180997

Damn 28 bit DMA mask unsupported by xen architecture. :lol:

Fortunately removing the mask doesn't do anything f'ed up (not at least so far)
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Post by KODIAK »

Well, I am about to begin a Server+ course, and that will be immediately followed by a Network+, Unix courses. Maybe I'll learn something worthwhile, eh? At the mo, am ploughing my way through the A+ Cert book, just to make sure I'm up to speed with the basics before starting the first course. Shouldn't exactly be difficult, but the idea is to get the jist of what the examiners are thinking and how they formulate their questions to catch you out if you don't read the questions properly. :lol: :wink: :roll:
It is not the technique that wins a fight, but the more furious mind - Kodiak WOF

You are stuck on stupid. I'm not going to answer that question! - Gen Honore, New Orleans Sep 05
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