I am willing to bet, that if it only crashes when it is 'tucked away' airflow is inhibited by the closed in booth. IL2 makes my laptop VERY hot, especially if I run at high resolutions. So bad in fact, that if I don't have the system propped up .5-1 inches in the front to help the airflow and heat disipation (all intake fans are on the botton) I can get it to shut down (to protect from overheating) nearly 100% of the time.
Couple things you could try if the cubby has a panel in the back remove it if possible. If it isn't open, I would suggest getting a saw and making it open. Closing in a modern PC like this is DUMB. Sure in the old days, where passively cooling a CPU (i.e heat sink only) was possible it might have been OK.
Likewise if there is a door in the front, leave it open when running the PC.
If there is no panel in the rear, or you are able to remove it you can also pull the desk a couple inches away from the wall. You'd be surprised how much difference 2 inches can make. I have my desktop here with me, and if I put it close up to the wall I could cook eggs on it. I pulled it two inches from where it was and it stays MUCH cooler.
If some or all of those steps aren't possible I would suggest putting it on the side of your desk in the open, or at least by your legs if there is enough room and it won't drive you nuts.
And also, all the wires drooping down, try to keep them out of the way of the fans, so they don't affect airflow. It may not be possible to keep every wire completely out of the way, but the more so the better.
If not of that works, might I suggest more extreme methods, not limited to, but including:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/09/ ... index.html
(not a joke, it really works)
and
http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/B/Tiya.D.Bo ... space4.jpg
Computer has been Freezing not CTD. problem. Overheat?
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it probably dosnt mean anything at all now days, but ive never been a big fan of the sound blaster live value card... i got one thinking it would be a great addition and even heard how soundblaster was a good quality sound card. but mine caused me nothing but problems.. and this was back in the mechwarrior 4 days.. what i ended up doing was buying a cheap soundcard and my problems went away, this was after awhile trying updated drivers etc... im sure they got better drivers by now though.
i use the USB sound blaster thingy. sound great. puts my plugins for mic and headphones right there close. great setup.
i use the USB sound blaster thingy. sound great. puts my plugins for mic and headphones right there close. great setup.
I probably won't be dousing my machine in cooking oil anytime soon. I'm sure it works, but cooking oil conducts heat no? Anyway, that stuff is beyond me.
Early yesterday, I did move my compy down on top of my half cabinet by my feet under my desk. When I play games, I pull it out to get more air flow. Still, the game crashed on me last night while I was playing IL2 with Steel. He seemed to think it may be an EAX problem. I reinstalled all my drivers and made sure that EAX is off. Will test today and see if that helped. I'm sure it is probably overheat. I need to get some photos of my case and decide where to wire in another fan.
Early yesterday, I did move my compy down on top of my half cabinet by my feet under my desk. When I play games, I pull it out to get more air flow. Still, the game crashed on me last night while I was playing IL2 with Steel. He seemed to think it may be an EAX problem. I reinstalled all my drivers and made sure that EAX is off. Will test today and see if that helped. I'm sure it is probably overheat. I need to get some photos of my case and decide where to wire in another fan.
the rebooting is not likely an EAX problem - but maybe.
i think it is heat related after our discussion last night.
the cooking oil thing is cool - we saw that when the article was first published and may do it as a learning experience here... thermals is one of out main things, along with power...
i think it is heat related after our discussion last night.
the cooking oil thing is cool - we saw that when the article was first published and may do it as a learning experience here... thermals is one of out main things, along with power...
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Cool hope that works. I did some research on the net the other day and found a few sites that talk about checking CPU Temperature. One site talks about monitoring and logging the temperature of your CPU and/or your motherboard. Another site talks about installing software called Everest Home edition that allows you to monitor your CPU temperature. I did a Google search for ( Check CPU Temperature ) to find the info.
I was able to see what my CPU temperature was in my old Bios on start up , but my new Bios doesn’t tell me. Anyway , sounds like you got it fixed but I thought I would mention this just in case the computer needs to be checked once again for over heating in the future.
I was able to see what my CPU temperature was in my old Bios on start up , but my new Bios doesn’t tell me. Anyway , sounds like you got it fixed but I thought I would mention this just in case the computer needs to be checked once again for over heating in the future.
That's great Grif, nice to hear you appear to have it beat. haven't read the whole thread since we started it, but did anyone mention the ASUS Probe proggy? That's free too.
I DO like the oil-cooling thing there. I've thought about that sort of thing now and then myself, but of course not knowing if there was a reasonable solution. Of course it should be noted that the experiment wasn't undertaken with the mains supply submerged!
:lol: Not that it probably doesn't work, but more likely for safety reasons. I think I may have gotten my dirty little paws on a real decent box for my project - a Computer Interface Unit casing from a Challenger I main battle tank. It's about 5mm thickness case panelling, plenty of access plates, and cooling fins allround on the casing. Ideally, a Chieftain CIU casing would have been better. But beggars can't be choosers I guess. :lol: The item as a whole costs £100,000. But now that the equipment is obsolete, the CIU can be scrapped. Hence the opportunity to get my hands on the casing. The internals of course are still classified as 'restricted' and will be scrapped by the unit.
I DO like the oil-cooling thing there. I've thought about that sort of thing now and then myself, but of course not knowing if there was a reasonable solution. Of course it should be noted that the experiment wasn't undertaken with the mains supply submerged!
:lol: Not that it probably doesn't work, but more likely for safety reasons. I think I may have gotten my dirty little paws on a real decent box for my project - a Computer Interface Unit casing from a Challenger I main battle tank. It's about 5mm thickness case panelling, plenty of access plates, and cooling fins allround on the casing. Ideally, a Chieftain CIU casing would have been better. But beggars can't be choosers I guess. :lol: The item as a whole costs £100,000. But now that the equipment is obsolete, the CIU can be scrapped. Hence the opportunity to get my hands on the casing. The internals of course are still classified as 'restricted' and will be scrapped by the unit.It is not the technique that wins a fight, but the more furious mind - Kodiak WOF
You are stuck on stupid. I'm not going to answer that question! - Gen Honore, New Orleans Sep 05
You are stuck on stupid. I'm not going to answer that question! - Gen Honore, New Orleans Sep 05
After playing with Panzer and Jedi for a about two and a half hours, I did not have any freeze ups. However, after they dropped offline, I decided to practice my bombing IL2...I suck. Anyway, it did freeze up after numerous restarts of the mission. I rebooted and did a few more and did not see any other problems. Could be a video driver issue...could be heat...could the gods above wreaking havoc on my life. I just don't know anymore. It seems to peform better under the desk in any case.
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I recall the last time I had a game freeze up on me all the time. It was when playing the new MW4 on hot summer nights. I thought I had an over heating problem as well because I tried to fix it and update all my drivers for several months. I took my computer case off and it didn’t freeze up as much. But it still did sometimes. Nothing worked. I suspected my Main Board was bad but I never wanted to believe it.
In the end , I’ve had it. I wanted a computer that worked right. So eventually I coughed up the ca$h for a new Main Board. I went down to the computer shop and started looking around and checking the out prices. Then I saw her…. A sweet looking ASUS all glittering with new techno. Sweet.
So I was telling the guy whilst pointing through the glass case .. “ I want that ASUS “
He said that would work good but maybe you would be interested in this other main board too. It cost less and works well. I took a second glance at the board he was talking about and it look like that cheap POS I am trying to replace. So I said no thanks , I’ll take that ASUS Mother Board and pay the extra $30 for it.
Yeah I paid more but I walked out a happy camper knowing that this is gonna work. I installed it a few days later with some real simple step by step installation procedures. The ASUS hand book made step by step installation a snap. When I was all done I thought I was ready to start building computers for a living if it’s really this easy.
So , after I fired it up and set things up a bit , I tried out that MW4 game again. It worked beautifully. No more hick ups or hanging. No more shutting down my computer and re-starting it. No more getting kicked out of on-line games. After going through all that torment , I was in computer haven because my ASUS came through and made me a proud computer owner once again.
Well anyway that’s my story. My computer has been bitchen ( as in cool ) ever since. I finally got around to building me a new computer last year starting from scratch. And yep , I installed a new ASUS K7 Main Board in it. Now both my computers are running smooth and I don’t have any hassles beyond the usual internet crap you always need to look out for.
In the end , I’ve had it. I wanted a computer that worked right. So eventually I coughed up the ca$h for a new Main Board. I went down to the computer shop and started looking around and checking the out prices. Then I saw her…. A sweet looking ASUS all glittering with new techno. Sweet.
So I was telling the guy whilst pointing through the glass case .. “ I want that ASUS “
He said that would work good but maybe you would be interested in this other main board too. It cost less and works well. I took a second glance at the board he was talking about and it look like that cheap POS I am trying to replace. So I said no thanks , I’ll take that ASUS Mother Board and pay the extra $30 for it.
Yeah I paid more but I walked out a happy camper knowing that this is gonna work. I installed it a few days later with some real simple step by step installation procedures. The ASUS hand book made step by step installation a snap. When I was all done I thought I was ready to start building computers for a living if it’s really this easy.
So , after I fired it up and set things up a bit , I tried out that MW4 game again. It worked beautifully. No more hick ups or hanging. No more shutting down my computer and re-starting it. No more getting kicked out of on-line games. After going through all that torment , I was in computer haven because my ASUS came through and made me a proud computer owner once again.
Well anyway that’s my story. My computer has been bitchen ( as in cool ) ever since. I finally got around to building me a new computer last year starting from scratch. And yep , I installed a new ASUS K7 Main Board in it. Now both my computers are running smooth and I don’t have any hassles beyond the usual internet crap you always need to look out for.