has anyone done it? did it help alot? and what kit did you use if you did?
im thinking about it myself. my GPU seems to like to overhead. even with the behemoth fan and heatsink. ive cleaned it out a few times already. lint it still getting in the case. if i put lint guards on the fan intakes, then it clogs up the cooling for the CPU as well as the GPU. so thinking of going water cooling to bypass all the maintence involved. so any input on water cooling would greatly be appriciated.
just a quick edit here. so you all know what case im running on this is a link to the info. let me know if i need ot share any other info too.
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chas ... /1000a.asp
water cooling GPU,CPU.
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No, but I have read-up extensively on the subject, and would recommend you do the same to fully understand the pros & cons yourself. Everytime I get around to considering water cooling for my set-up, the wife begins to talk about upgrading the PC, making it pointless until we have done so.
Water cooling is considered to produce a cooling advantage of up to 20-25 degrees celcius in some systems depending upon which kit is used.
One highly recommended feature of any set-up is to make use of the largest radiator possible - they usually come in 120mm fan size or multiples thereof, up to three in size.
Something that many people are unaware of in water cooling systems is the build-up of algae and other deposits in the system. There are various additives to assist in the dispersal/removal/prevention of such. But it isn't a terribly expensive part of the set-up, unless you leave it too long before introducing them into your system.
Condensation can also be a problem, but there are several ways to get around that, including building a fully enclosed system and employing dessicator units (a bit extreme I agree, but this is standard practice within military environments where almost all electronics boxes are fully sealed and dessicated.) However, they do use special dry air heating units to dry normal air and force it into the assembly before the assembly is fully sealed.
I'll look around for a few more links, but there are one or two aleady in that list for Grifter.
Water cooling is considered to produce a cooling advantage of up to 20-25 degrees celcius in some systems depending upon which kit is used.
One highly recommended feature of any set-up is to make use of the largest radiator possible - they usually come in 120mm fan size or multiples thereof, up to three in size.
Something that many people are unaware of in water cooling systems is the build-up of algae and other deposits in the system. There are various additives to assist in the dispersal/removal/prevention of such. But it isn't a terribly expensive part of the set-up, unless you leave it too long before introducing them into your system.
Condensation can also be a problem, but there are several ways to get around that, including building a fully enclosed system and employing dessicator units (a bit extreme I agree, but this is standard practice within military environments where almost all electronics boxes are fully sealed and dessicated.) However, they do use special dry air heating units to dry normal air and force it into the assembly before the assembly is fully sealed.
I'll look around for a few more links, but there are one or two aleady in that list for Grifter.
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well since my case, and PSU is thermaltake, i was thinking of trying one of their kits. this kit here looks like it will fit within the case.
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Ligu ... -w0075.asp
then add the GPU water block.
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Ligu ... -w0038.asp
there would still be fans involved. however the noisy bastard would be gone ( the jet plane engine i use for a CPU fan now.. ) plus deleting the GPU fan might be helpfull. ( its not like Nvida cards are known for noiseless fans )
what im most curious is how the setup is for one of these things and was hopen someone here might of done it.
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Ligu ... -w0075.asp
then add the GPU water block.
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Ligu ... -w0038.asp
there would still be fans involved. however the noisy bastard would be gone ( the jet plane engine i use for a CPU fan now.. ) plus deleting the GPU fan might be helpfull. ( its not like Nvida cards are known for noiseless fans )
what im most curious is how the setup is for one of these things and was hopen someone here might of done it.
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There’s just something about Water and Electricity that doesn’t sound right. Considering I know allot about Freon and it’s course of action through the cooling system I was always thinking of going a step beyond that of coolant lines and putting some R-134 Freon lines through my computer system , which would make it a great CPU cooler.
Off the top of my head the only problem I can think of would be the sound of the compressor. I'm wondering how much noise it makes. It would be very similar to the compressor sound coming from your refrigerator but maybe not so much , since it would be a very small compressor for the PC .
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To put it in simple words: The Freon cooling system takes advantage of the fact that when a liquid turns into gas, it gets cold. The liquid freon will be pumped through a metal tube into the evaporator (inside the "cold plate" attached to the CPU, where it evaporates and cools down the CPU down to minus 40 degrees Celsius, allowing overclocking far beyond what's possible with conventional cooling.
From there, the vapor will go to the condenser (the twisted copper tube located in front of the system's base. There, it will be cooled down, thanks to the airflow from a powerful NMB fan, and will turn liquid, and is ready to be pumped into the evaporator again.
The "cold plate" also contains a thermal sensor, and the Renegade's control circuit will regulate the compressor so that the cold plate is kept at a constant temperature, no matter how much heat the CPU emits.
I’ll let you know when I figure out how to do it. I might throw in some Neon cooling lines to boot.
A look at the KryoTech Renegade
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.p ... gade.shtml
THE HEATSINK GUIDE: A look at the KryoTech Athlon
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.p ... tech.shtml
How to build one –
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1032/
There’s just something about Water and Electricity that doesn’t sound right. Considering I know allot about Freon and it’s course of action through the cooling system I was always thinking of going a step beyond that of coolant lines and putting some R-134 Freon lines through my computer system , which would make it a great CPU cooler.
Off the top of my head the only problem I can think of would be the sound of the compressor. I'm wondering how much noise it makes. It would be very similar to the compressor sound coming from your refrigerator but maybe not so much , since it would be a very small compressor for the PC .
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To put it in simple words: The Freon cooling system takes advantage of the fact that when a liquid turns into gas, it gets cold. The liquid freon will be pumped through a metal tube into the evaporator (inside the "cold plate" attached to the CPU, where it evaporates and cools down the CPU down to minus 40 degrees Celsius, allowing overclocking far beyond what's possible with conventional cooling.
From there, the vapor will go to the condenser (the twisted copper tube located in front of the system's base. There, it will be cooled down, thanks to the airflow from a powerful NMB fan, and will turn liquid, and is ready to be pumped into the evaporator again.
The "cold plate" also contains a thermal sensor, and the Renegade's control circuit will regulate the compressor so that the cold plate is kept at a constant temperature, no matter how much heat the CPU emits.
I’ll let you know when I figure out how to do it. I might throw in some Neon cooling lines to boot.
A look at the KryoTech Renegade
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.p ... gade.shtml
THE HEATSINK GUIDE: A look at the KryoTech Athlon
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.p ... tech.shtml
How to build one –
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1032/
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BlackHawk*K
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ive played around with a similar idea. i have a 12 volt mini fridge. and was thinking of someway useing it to pump in cold air. but as like the guy in the article i was concerned about condensation. and just so you know. the water cooler systems are high volume low preasure systems. very easy to seal compaired say a garden hose 
the idea behind water cooling is moving a massive amount of water threw the system to take heat away and cooling it in a radiator. but since its under low presure. there is a minimal threat to springing a leak. some systems ive read about even have a vent on the external radiator, so if the system actualy got any heavy preasure, it would vent rather then spill within the case. one system i looked at didnt even have a pump. it relied on thermal cycling to do the work. a 1 way valved allowed the heated water to move to the cooler, and cooler watter to be drawn in. kind of a nifty idea. anyhow more research to do for me :roll: lol
the idea behind water cooling is moving a massive amount of water threw the system to take heat away and cooling it in a radiator. but since its under low presure. there is a minimal threat to springing a leak. some systems ive read about even have a vent on the external radiator, so if the system actualy got any heavy preasure, it would vent rather then spill within the case. one system i looked at didnt even have a pump. it relied on thermal cycling to do the work. a 1 way valved allowed the heated water to move to the cooler, and cooler watter to be drawn in. kind of a nifty idea. anyhow more research to do for me :roll: lol-
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