Widescreen Game support

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 14 Jan 2007, 21:10

Not sure who has found this and who has not, but with the advent of inexpensive lcd monitors, I'd bet some of us have widescreens now. In my searching, I found a pretty good site that helps us add widescreen modes to games, that in an omission of silly proportions, that only support 4:3 aspect monitors (R6:Vegas, I'm looking at you!).

It's a pretty good list that provides the methods, etc.

Wide Screen Gaming Master List

Hope this helps.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 14 Jan 2007, 23:01

My new monitor I have had less then 1 week now is a wide screen. And god do I love it. Some games have had wide screne and some don't. hell in Dawn of war it did not but its newest expansion has it. Anything made in 2006 or above should have had widescreen support as in 2006 is when it realy started to become common. But this new Rainbow six not having it is just one more nail in its coffin for me. I have to upgrade my rather new pc video card as theyw her elazey to make it backwards compatable (as a programer Ican tell you its not relay that hard). But my laptop should play it, GREAT and witht he ram upgrade it should play well, but um my laptop is also a widescreen toy. And o widescreen not supported, guess what, I will not waste my cash on a game that the developers are lazey on.

Nemisis · Post by **Nemisis** » 15 Jan 2007, 02:56

Fantastic find Gator

i can now try out Lomac, IL2 and BF2 on my 42" LCD HDTV with full wide screen

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 15 Jan 2007, 14:32

Veg, Vegas does do widescreen with a hack I posted in the other thread ... misc ground combat ...

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 16 Jan 2007, 06:31

I know I saw that. but um think about it, with a hack, why not out of the box. My point still stands that as a Developer, I refuse when possible (windows is exception as how else do I game, else I would be all Linux) to pay for sloppy code or lazy written code. Vages falls into the lazy category.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 16 Jan 2007, 08:26

well, the thing is, if you look at the master list i posted, most games require some sort of hack.

I do agree with you that it's rediculous that a game that releases at this time does not suport the current displays on the market. What's also nearly unbelievable is that GRAW (released last summer) that supports WS so well. On top of that, Vegas was nearly ported perfectly from the X360 version which is WS - natively.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 16 Jan 2007, 09:11

Well for this game its not just the display. Fine one small issue, I don't like it. but add in the fact it not backwards computable, which should not have been hard to do at all. Those 2 added together make me say they are lazey.

tho I should look up to see some other games I am playing, as the hacks may be there for those lol.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 16 Jan 2007, 16:35

with regard to Shader Model 3 (SM3) - I'm not sure what that actually does. It MAY not be possible to do what they want in SM2 or whatever. I'm not real up on the inner workings of GPUs and rendering, etc.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 16 Jan 2007, 21:46

?Thing is how many games have you seen with optional shaders, and other fun toys that rleay make a diffrence but require a vid card of x date of better. Over there years you do see it, why can't they do it here. Its rleya going to hurt there sales from what I ahve been reading in forms. MAny have taken the stance I did and said screw it, not upgrading now as they did just a year ago already. So a great game could ahve made even more cash but nope they screwed themselves lol

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 17 Jan 2007, 05:39

you are definitely correct - that will absolutely limit their sales.

Thing is, if it pushes more people to upgrade, I'm sorta for it. As you raise the hardware bar across the board, the games will start to be developed to take advantage of the higher bar. Someone has to be the first to push the bar higher. I suppose in this case, it's too bad it's a game we'd all like to play.

At the end of last year, Company of Heros pushed it up a bit, but it DID have the ability to scale down slightly to lowe computers. It's just a matter of time. Sorta like when games started to be shipped on CD instead of floppy disk - how many people said "I'm not buying a cdrom drive" and then now, with games starting to ship on DVD, there's still people saying "I'm not buying a dvd drive just because gameX ships on dvd"

It's really the same thing. At some point, developers can't keep developing for 3-gen-old hardware. The only people stuck are the Radeon X800 series folks who didn't get the new shader models. I'm actually more upset with ATI for not keeping up with the tech and with myself for getting invested in hardware that wasn't up to snuff.

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 17 Jan 2007, 06:36

I don't have a issue in upgrading. My systems I build have one relay simple rule

Build the system so it can play all new games for the next 3 years.

Usually I beat that mark by a bit. the main system I have now is close to 4 years old with only the video card update because a NEW shiny x800 little over a year ago for 250 when it goes for 550 was well a sweet deal. this dose hinge on one thing tho, in 2 or 3 years they will not be lazy and screw people who have a older machine by gaming standards. We can't buy a new system every 6 months or buy a new video card every 6 months. So yes I agree with updating but within reason. My new system thats will happen in the next 4 months I figure will cost me at least 2000$ I am betting. and I can't put that down once a year. I have other bills and things to deal with lol. Sucks time for a upgrade comes around same time I will be looking at a new car lol. But if I bought a brand new system say last year with a x800 which then was still close tot he top dog of cards, one year later it should not be considered scrap.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » 17 Jan 2007, 07:44

i'm with you there. There's no way to upgrade often. $2K is probably about right. Last year, I did the same as you with the X800 -- picked it up relatively inexpensively specifically to tide me over until 2007 (now) when I planned a full build.

The hard part for me is keeping my wife happy with her system - I can't get too far ahead of her or she'll want me to upgrade her system too. As it is, I probably owe her a new monitor ... something in the 19" widescreen range (bringing it smoothly back onto topic).

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 17 Jan 2007, 08:56

see thats where being single helps. Besides all the cash I owe, any cash I get after that is all mine lol

tho its lonely at night sniff sniff

Softball · Post by **Softball** » 17 Jan 2007, 10:07

The 20" Dell WS sells for about $200+ dollars.

PanzerMeyer · Post by **PanzerMeyer** » 17 Jan 2007, 10:32

VEGETA wrote: tho its lonely at night sniff sniff

That's what the internet and toilet tissue are for! LOL

VEGETA · Post by **VEGETA** » 17 Jan 2007, 10:42

man think about it, I am in Detroit area and I have extra cash. Street corners easy to find

Actually to be honest that just an't my style lol

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