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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/21/us/po ... ml?_r=1&hp

Bush is no longer President

I honestlay am not a big Obama or a MCcAin fan for that fact but to be honest I hate Bush, he has not been good for the US. So happy to see him go.
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Today was an ordinary day for me as far as I'm concerned. I hope he's a one termer.
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today was an extraordinary day in the history of the United States. regardless of how he performs or how much folks like or dislike him, a black man was sworn in as President of the United States.

i am happy it happened in my lifetime.
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Steel wrote:today was an extraordinary day in the history of the United States. regardless of how he performs or how much folks like or dislike him, a black man was sworn in as President of the United States.

i am happy it happened in my lifetime.
Unlike others, I dont get caught up with the celebrity-like cult status of Mr. Obama and thus I ignore the fact of what his skin color is. I have nothing against him personally but I have fundamental differences with his political ideology. I dont give a crap what your skin color or race is if I dont like your ideology.
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i had no clue he had a celebrity-like cult status? nor that it was related to his skin color or that such was to be ignored because of a celebrity-like cult status, if said actually exists.

the world is no where near being able to say that skin color or race can be ignored, unfortunately. not even here in the united states.

i don't necessarilly like or dislike him, i did not vote for him and did not want him in the position he is now is, but the fact remains that history was made today and at least i am happy it happened in my life time.
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ya there was something on discovery chanal show called "daily planet" (its Canadian) about his new limo (ita science news show) but they said he has 10 balls to attend and crap. Something like 1million showed up for the swearing in.

I admit I would take Obama over MCcAne as I just hate him more lol. But to me I am mory happy to be getting Bush out, but realy bush being out of office is going to put a lot of comedians out of work, PDT_Armataz_01_12
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Steel wrote:i had no clue he had a celebrity-like cult status?
I guess you haven't noticed the inordinate amount of magazine covers with his face on it and the tv and radio journalists who just fawn over him while talking about him? Or how about all the people you often see in interviews who are convinced he's the Second Coming?
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nope

Mind you I am in Canada, but bet it was on a lot of networks here as well but eh whatever.
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I dont give a crap what your skin color or race is if I dont like your ideology.
So if you do like someone's ideology, does that mean you "would" care what color their skin is? Your comment seems somewhat slanted.

Obama taking office just put him at a higher magnification under the microscope. I am not much for politics, but I'm waiting to see what happens from here on out.
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Softball wrote:So if you do like someone's ideology, does that mean you "would" care what color their skin is? Your comment seems somewhat slanted.
You obviously have misunderstood my clear statement. I was saying that I vote for someone based on what their ideology/beliefs are irrespective of what their race/skin color is. It seems many people are simply happy that an African American got elected REGARDLESS of what his political beliefs are and I think that is a flawed attitude. Just my opinion of course.
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I could care less about color, religion and whatever else, I am more interest if that said person can do the job and do it well. I hope Obama don;t screw up the US, and hope even more he dose some good with the office
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Obviously.

Don't you just love living in a Democratic nation? Lol.
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could be worse, you could have let a compelete dumb ass who comedians have a field day with into office, O wait, Bush, nm then PDT_Armataz_01_12
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I think *all* politicians are used car salesmen at heart. The 'good' ones know it and don't fall for their own BS. The 'bad' ones... well, there's not much in this world more frightening than a man in a position of power who has no doubts.
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you should seperate the fact that you dislike the beliefs, etc. and just look at the fact that a black man was elected President on our lifetime. that is what i am saying i am happy about. i do not agree with his beliefs, political party (for the most part), etc. two separate issues.
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I believe that he will try and help every man woman and child stand on their own two feet and given a chance to do what the select few can do. Thats what President Obama is about.

I can't believe some of the stuff I just read here, I am so disappointed. this man truely has Joe the plumbers best interest at heart and you can't even see it. Yes it will be somewhat business as usual but he is truely out to make a difference for us the common American. Yes change is hard as hell but its necessary and him being Black only makes this whole process that much more monumental and tragic at the same time. Some of you just proved what I have always believed about some white people: No matter how they ice the shit cake its still a shit cake, and they want everybody who's not like them to eat it.

Think what you want of me after you read this post, I really don't care. Steel your right I never thought a black man would become President in my lifetime or my childrens and I am so happy that I could breathe the same air as him. It seems alot of people are scared he will try to exact revenge for what Anglo-Saxson's have done over the last two or so centuries. Get over it alright, we haven't totally but shit whats the past is the past and you can't see your future for looking behind you.

As my grandma used to say, Keith don't cut your nose off to spite your face, in the end its only going to hurt you and not your nose.

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This is a very edited and watered down version of what I really wanted to say, I want to get past this and move on. Also he can't fuck up America any worse than the last dick that defiled the office and Corporate America that is mainly run by who people. Yes thats right class White People.
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daofcmacg wrote: Think what you want of me after you read this post, I really don't care. Steel your right I never thought a black man would become President in my lifetime or my childrens and I am so happy that I could breathe the same air as him. It seems alot of people are scared he will try to exact revenge for what Anglo-Saxson's have done over the last two or so centuries. Get over it alright, we haven't totally but shit whats the past is the past and you can't see your future for looking behind you.


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This is a very edited and watered down version of what I really wanted to say, I want to get past this and move on. Also he can't fuck up America any worse than the last dick that defiled the office and Corporate America that is mainly run by who people. Yes thats right class White People.
You have no grounds for insinuating that I'm a racist. I've shown crystal clear in my previous posts that I did not vote for Obama because of his political ideology and NOT because of his race. I guess your misguided rage prevented you from seeing that clearly.
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See this is why i have ignored this thread.......it actually lasted longer than I thought before someone played the race card. Get used to this....any opposition to Obamamessiah will result in being cast as a racist....just watch
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yeash can't we just be happy Bush is gone
And he never ended up in Korea, or Iran as a result of him as it apeared for a while he was headed that way.
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Panzer I would like to apologize for using you as a lab rat. I knew your response would be that and no I am not calling you a racist at all maybe the topic but you no. If anything you guys should be calling me one for my statements at the end.

An old girlfriend of mine once told me when she was madly in love with me that she wished I could be her for 4 seconds, I would truely know how much she loved me (of course this was in the begining of the relationship towards the end it was more like you would know how much I want you dead, that tends to happen when you turn down a woman's marriage proposal). If you guys could be me for 4 seconds you would know how my life as a black man African American or of African (whatever is the politically correct term these days) Decent truely is. But you can't so I had to kind of do a reverse psychology on you, again sorry about using you Panzer as a crash test dummy even though you did leave yourself wide open for that one.

Here's the skinny as I know it, when President Obama won I won. It was like I was up there taking that oath. In my mind he washed away being called a Nigger in Rockford or the white people fearing me just because I enter a room. He made the pain tolerable for me to live in a land that I feel truely dosen't accept me.

Buff I'm not playing the race card, I'm a little smarter than that but yes your right President Obama needs to do what he can in these first hundred days cause once his newness wears off and the politicians finds out its ok to bring on the full scale frontal assault without fear of the race card being played then he will a sitting duck with many crosshairs on him. Also he will be under a microscope and what past Presidents could do and get away with (President Clinton, President Bush, President Regan just to name a few) he will not be able to do. There is no race there or plight its just what it is plain and simple.

Thats all I got to say about that subject.

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