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Post by PanzerMeyer »

Madrus wrote:first world, second world, third world is NOT based on economies. it is based on political influence as Jedi indicated.
No it's not.

From http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Gener ... d_def.html


THIRD WORLD
Gerard Chaliand - author
The economically underdeveloped countries of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America, considered as an entity with common characteristics, such as poverty, high birthrates, and economic dependence on the advanced countries. The French demographer Alfred Sauvy coined the expression ("tiers monde" in French) in 1952 by analogy with the "third estate," the commoners of France before and during the French Revolution-as opposed to priests and nobles, comprising the first and second estates respectively. Like the third estate, wrote Sauvy, the third world is nothing, and it "wants to be something." The term therefore implies that the third world is exploited, much as the third estate was exploited, and that, like the third estate its destiny is a revolutionary one. It conveys as well a second idea, also discussed by Sauvy, that of non-alignment, for the third world belongs neither to the industrialized capitalist world nor to the industrialized Communist bloc. The expression third world was used at the 1955 conference of Afro-Asian countries held in Bandung, Indonesia. In 1956 a group of social scientists associated with Sauvy's National Institute of Demographic Studies, in Paris, published a book called Le Tiers-Monde. Three years later, the French economist Francois Perroux launched a new journal, on problems of underdevelopment, with the same title. By the end of the 1950's the term was frequently employed in the French media to refer to the underdeveloped countries of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America.
Characteristics
The underdevelopment of the third world is marked by a number of common traits; distorted and highly dependent economies devoted to producing primary products for the developed world and to provide markets for their finished goods; traditional, rural social structures; high population growth; and widespread poverty. Nevertheless, the third world is sharply differentiated, for it includes countries on various levels of economic development. And despite the poverty of the countryside and the urban shantytowns, the ruling elites of most third world countries are wealthy.
This combination of conditions in Asia, Africa, Oceania and Latin America is linked to the absorption of the third world into the international capitalist economy, by way of conquest or indirect domination. The main economic consequence of Western domination was the creation, for the first time in history, of a world market. By setting up throughout the third world sub-economies linked to the West, and by introducing other modern institutions, industrial capitalism disrupted traditional economies and, indeed, societies. This disruption led to underdevelopment.
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Post by KODIAK »

The sad thing is, in simply producing those materials for developed countries they could effectively raise their economy to the levels of those developed countries, by effectively holding them to financial ransom. Of course there is a fine balance between negotiating what their resources are worth and blind robbery. But the bottom line is that some of these developed countries are currently taking the piss, and it wouldn't do them any harm to be made pay a morally worthy value for the goods. This would promote many things, including the rise of a nation from the depths of poverty, and forming positive relations across the globe instead of creating problems that eventually blow up in their face. Of course, if we take Bosnia-H or Kosovo or Iraq, we can also say that there were simply those who wanted to see a war for their own benefit. :wink:
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